Browse Forums Flooring & Floor Covering 1 Mar 04, 2013 12:44 pm House - Lockup completed 23rd December 2011 - Painters are in!!! https://forum.homeone.com.au/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=37261&start=0&hilit=Blaxland Re: Carpet laying standards - Help with building insurance c 2Mar 04, 2013 1:19 pm Building again . . with Redink Pre-start 04/12 Keys - 03/13 Finishing off. . . Painting/Floor Tiles/Carpet - 04/13 Walk In Robe/Lighting/Blinds and Moving 05/13 Gates/Front Landscaping / Pool 05/13 Re: Carpet laying standards - Help with building insurance c 4Mar 04, 2013 5:28 pm House - Lockup completed 23rd December 2011 - Painters are in!!! https://forum.homeone.com.au/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=37261&start=0&hilit=Blaxland Re: Carpet laying standards - Help with building insurance c 6Mar 05, 2013 8:43 pm It is standard for the smooth edge to be felt through inexpensive thinner carpets. This is an issue that cannot be avoided. The carpet has been laid to the AUS/NZ standard, and the underlay side of things is not relevant to the issue of the smooth edge. All you need to do, is GENTLY use a hammer and run it along the edge back and forth with a bit of pressure to blunt off the pins a bit. Not too much, do not whack them. Just turn them downwards gently towards te wall by applying some pressure with a hammer or similar item. Remember the fact that a) what you currently have is normal and b) what you are doing to remove or reduce te problem defeats the purpose of having the smooth edge to start with IF you flatten the smooth edge too much. This is a common concern of people when then have builders type of quality carpets that are generally thinner. Best wishes. CALL 1300GOHARVEY www.harveynormanflooring.com.au Carpet, Rugs, Timber, Bamboo, Laminate, Vinyl & Vinyl Tiles TIMBERMAX Real Australian Hardwood Flooring IN STORES NOW Re: Carpet laying standards - Help with building insurance c 7Mar 06, 2013 8:03 am Thanks for the feedback everyone. I really appreciate it. House - Lockup completed 23rd December 2011 - Painters are in!!! https://forum.homeone.com.au/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=37261&start=0&hilit=Blaxland Re: Carpet laying standards - Help with building insurance c 8Mar 07, 2013 7:33 pm Try this..... http://www.regalcarpetcleaning.com.au/contact-details Michael Mulquiney is the inspector, and you could not wish for a more knowledgeable person Internal and External Building and Colour Consultant Online - Worldwide http://www.denovoconcepts.com Re: Carpet laying standards - Help with building insurance c 9Mar 07, 2013 8:26 pm Michelle Try this..... http://www.regalcarpetcleaning.com.au/contact-details Michael Mulquiney is the inspector, and you could not wish for a more knowledgeable person Yes. Good call Michelle. He is a really nice guy and knows his stuff, however this is an easy one we would have thought. Re: Carpet laying standards - Help with building insurance c 10Mar 09, 2013 5:22 pm As said,the carpet gripper is standard practice. Especially if it is a concrete floor. It is the only way of fitting the carpet with underlay on concrete. Other than doublebond ie glueing specialised underlay and carpet to the floor. Doublebond is usually for large commercial jobs and not domestic. Sometimes problems arise at tile/carpet junctions if carpet gripper is used, and the tacks are not laid-over after laying the carpet, as you have found. But around the walls it is only about 25mm from it, and I really doubt that the children will be running that close to the wall. I would be more worried about wall damage if that is the case. Some of the other comments are ill-imformed IMO. Re: Carpet laying standards - Help with building insurance c 11Mar 29, 2013 10:53 am Carpet people please correct me if I am wrong: Isn't underlay fitted inside the carpet grip and therefore not going to make a difference to the contact from foot to gripper if you walk on it? Where you are coming from is where you are going to... Re: Carpet laying standards - Help with building insurance c 13Feb 25, 2014 12:38 pm a few misconceptions here, hopefully i can clear it up. smoothedge must be installed on any floor (excluding direct stick carpet or dual bond) it goes around the entire perimeter of a room, and pins are 'slightly' bent towards the wall so the carpet is hooked onto it, and then when correctly power stretched it will hook and you will have tension. underlay is butted up and cut upto the smoothedge, it should never go over it. the reason why you are feeling the pins is a carpet that is too thin. i feel this carpet is too thin and shouldnt be allowed, but your carpet is a cheap one and this is why you can feel it. yes you can hit down the pins, but other issues arise. visually you will see dimples in your carpet, it will grip the yarn and choke it giving a dimple look. this is usually preferred along doorways where carpet butts up to timber or tile as it's important not to rip your feet on the pins, especailly if you have young children. it's not required around the rest of your room, no one walks that close to the wall, it's very improbable that someone would injur them selves along a skirting edge. however some carpets are so riduculously thin that it can be dangerous and you can hit them down if you wish, just be aware that you are trapping the yarn. issues with trapping the yarn is that you will not be able to lift your carpet at a later date without wrecking your carpet, those hit down pins are now firmly clenched onto your yarn and it will rip your carpet apart. unfortunatley cheapest isn't best, and if u didn't buy the cheapest then you were ripped off. the carpet you currently have is rubbish. and due to everyone buying as cheap as possible to either save money or sell a house fast etc there is now plenty of rubbish being sold. Re: Carpet laying standards - Help with building insurance c 14Aug 31, 2016 8:15 pm Maybe you should educate your self more and buy better carpet and they won't have this problem at all When you buy a good quality stero , do you buy the teac or the Sony ? There is smoothedge with shorter pins, but it doesn't hold the stretch properly and then you would blame the installer for a bad stretch of the carpet My advice buy real carpet and it will perform and last longer Re: Carpet laying standards - Help with building insurance c 15Oct 01, 2016 8:35 pm Hi, Funny to read this as we have same problem. When I complained to the place we bought the carpet from, he told us it's a thin carpet! Sadly he didn't mention that when we bought it. My sister got carpet from HN, and she has that problem too. I found the pins when playing with our grand-kids, and hiding behind recliners & couches. Found even more once I started looking. As far as I can tell the old and new are the same thickness (have new pieces of both). With the old carpet the pins only appeared in heavily trafficked transitions b/n carpet & tiles, never found any around the edges. That was after > 10 years: banged them down, then OK for a few more years. I would not have called our new carpet "cheap". bob. I apologise for any confusion, but your understanding is correct. We approached our situation differently based on advice from… 11 54464 DIY, Home Maintenance & Repair The workmanship is lifetime guarantee by "the insurer", not the builder. They will of course ask the initial builder to rectify and if they don't they will appoint… 7 5887 1 9686 |