Hi Karmaz,
That is good to hear, Congratulations! I'm glad to hear everything was sorted. Keep us updated with your progress. Cheers! Jess.
Browse Forums Building A New House Re: Porter Davis homes 1381Mar 15, 2011 3:18 pm Porter Davis Homes Questions? Call 1800PORTER Mon - Fri 9am-8pm Sat - Sun 10am-4pm info@porterdavis.com.au http://blog.porterdavis.com.au/ http://www.porterdavishomes.com.au Re: Porter Davis homes 1382Mar 15, 2011 6:15 pm Site cut: 2 June 2010 Slab Poured: 2 Oct 2010 Frame Stage: 12 Oct 2010 Lock up: Dec 2010 Fixing Stage: March 2011 http://karasdreamhome.blogspot.com/ Re: Porter Davis homes 1383Mar 15, 2011 7:05 pm Initial Deposit 05/09/2010 Tender 21/10/2010 Contract 26/11/2010 Site Start 11 Feb Bricking underway 28/03 Fitout commenced 20/04 PCI 08/07 Settlement 15/07 build Blog http://foxley29.blogspot.com/ Re: Porter Davis homes 1385Mar 15, 2011 7:16 pm JPZ Slab pour was meant to be today but delayed as the concreters had to fix up some defects picked up by the inspector. JPZ, we had the same delay, the concreter said it all added up to a better slab, and the inspector we had was fairly thorough. Would you mind PM'ing me the area yu are building in? we might be able to help each other out Initial Deposit 05/09/2010 Tender 21/10/2010 Contract 26/11/2010 Site Start 11 Feb Bricking underway 28/03 Fitout commenced 20/04 PCI 08/07 Settlement 15/07 build Blog http://foxley29.blogspot.com/ Re: Porter Davis homes 1386Mar 15, 2011 7:20 pm Can anyone help me out here, our SS has made a mistake, which has meant that there are items we asked for, and have in writing that they will be done. they are now not being done until we pay the upgrade cost. This is one of many PCV items (which should be called PD forget's items). Can someone offer me a next step as I am not keen to pay again, our CSA has even advised that it was her mistake. Initial Deposit 05/09/2010 Tender 21/10/2010 Contract 26/11/2010 Site Start 11 Feb Bricking underway 28/03 Fitout commenced 20/04 PCI 08/07 Settlement 15/07 build Blog http://foxley29.blogspot.com/ Re: Porter Davis homes 1387Mar 15, 2011 7:36 pm George's Can anyone help me out here, our SS has made a mistake, which has meant that there are items we asked for, and have in writing that they will be done. they are now not being done until we pay the upgrade cost. This is one of many PCV items (which should be called PD forget's items). Can someone offer me a next step as I am not keen to pay again, our CSA has even advised that it was her mistake. You shouldn't be paying for their mistakes.. were the things you wanted not included in your contract but were supposed to be? Or are the items in writing mentioned compensation? Re: Porter Davis homes 1388Mar 15, 2011 7:37 pm George's Can anyone help me out here, our SS has made a mistake, which has meant that there are items we asked for, and have in writing that they will be done. they are now not being done until we pay the upgrade cost. This is one of many PCV items (which should be called PD forget's items). Can someone offer me a next step as I am not keen to pay again, our CSA has even advised that it was her mistake. Do you mean the price has been included in the contract but the item is not listed? I had 4 PCVs, some items are additional extras & some are included in the price. We paid those chargeable one in the final invoice. __________________________________________ Built Camberwell 29 with PD - Hand Over was on 22/12/10 http://ssazcamberwell29.blogspot.com/ Re: Porter Davis homes 1389Mar 15, 2011 8:50 pm SSAZ George's Can anyone help me out here, our SS has made a mistake, which has meant that there are items we asked for, and have in writing that they will be done. they are now not being done until we pay the upgrade cost. This is one of many PCV items (which should be called PD forget's items). Can someone offer me a next step as I am not keen to pay again, our CSA has even advised that it was her mistake. Do you mean the price has been included in the contract but the item is not listed? I had 4 PCVs, some items are additional extras & some are included in the price. We paid those chargeable one in the final invoice. The item is in the Colour selection document & contract , and the point is stated in the PCV's as we were still uncomfortable with the vagueness of the answer. In effect the item is listed but has no cost attached. They are now stating that they have made a mistake and there is a cost attached. the ite, is tha Fascia and Guttering. We wanted to amke sure they were colourbond not painted Zincalume. I might try to escalate to the CSA's manager and see how I go. Thanks SSAZ & Victoria Initial Deposit 05/09/2010 Tender 21/10/2010 Contract 26/11/2010 Site Start 11 Feb Bricking underway 28/03 Fitout commenced 20/04 PCI 08/07 Settlement 15/07 build Blog http://foxley29.blogspot.com/ Re: Porter Davis homes 1390Mar 15, 2011 10:16 pm George's SSAZ George's Can anyone help me out here, our SS has made a mistake, which has meant that there are items we asked for, and have in writing that they will be done. they are now not being done until we pay the upgrade cost. This is one of many PCV items (which should be called PD forget's items). Can someone offer me a next step as I am not keen to pay again, our CSA has even advised that it was her mistake. Do you mean the price has been included in the contract but the item is not listed? I had 4 PCVs, some items are additional extras & some are included in the price. We paid those chargeable one in the final invoice. The item is in the Colour selection document & contract , and the point is stated in the PCV's as we were still uncomfortable with the vagueness of the answer. In effect the item is listed but has no cost attached. They are now stating that they have made a mistake and there is a cost attached. the ite, is tha Fascia and Guttering. We wanted to amke sure they were colourbond not painted Zincalume. I might try to escalate to the CSA's manager and see how I go. Thanks SSAZ & Victoria The solution is easy... If the items are included in a signed contract then they must honour the contract irrespective if there is a price or not (doesn't change the situations). The contract contains an inventory record of the items you have agreed too, the only price which is relevant is the "TOTAL FINAL PRICE". I think your CSA is trying to cover her butt with by forcing you to pay a PCV. Use the force of the law (which it sounds like it's on your side) and tell them to resolve it internally. Re: Porter Davis homes 1391Mar 16, 2011 5:52 am tstr1a The item is in the Colour selection document & contract , and the point is stated in the PCV's as we were still uncomfortable with the vagueness of the answer. In effect the item is listed but has no cost attached. They are now stating that they have made a mistake and there is a cost attached. the ite, is tha Fascia and Guttering. We wanted to amke sure they were colourbond not painted Zincalume. I might try to escalate to the CSA's manager and see how I go. Thanks SSAZ & Victoria The solution is easy... If the items are included in a signed contract then they must honour the contract irrespective if there is a price or not (doesn't change the situations). The contract contains an inventory record of the items you have agreed too, the only price which is relevant is the "TOTAL FINAL PRICE". I think your CSA is trying to cover her butt with by forcing you to pay a PCV. Use the force of the law (which it sounds like it's on your side) and tell them to resolve it internally. I agree with tstr1a, if it is included in the contract then it cannot be a PCV item. They simply have to honour the contract. __________________________________________ Built Camberwell 29 with PD - Hand Over was on 22/12/10 http://ssazcamberwell29.blogspot.com/ Re: Porter Davis homes 1392Mar 16, 2011 7:46 am Thanks SSAZ & Tstr1a, I'm following up again this morning. I will post an update, as it seems that they are, as you said covering themselves. Initial Deposit 05/09/2010 Tender 21/10/2010 Contract 26/11/2010 Site Start 11 Feb Bricking underway 28/03 Fitout commenced 20/04 PCI 08/07 Settlement 15/07 build Blog http://foxley29.blogspot.com/ Re: Porter Davis homes 1393Mar 16, 2011 9:20 am George's Thanks SSAZ & Tstr1a, I'm following up again this morning. I will post an update, as it seems that they are, as you said covering themselves. Domestic Building Contracts Act 1995 Section 28: Fixtures and fittings are included in contract price The cost of any fixture or fitting shown in the plans and specifications included in a domestic building contract is to be taken as having been included in the contract price unless— (a) the contract states that the fixture or fitting is not included in the contract price; and (b) the building owner places her, his or its signature or seal next to the statement. Re: Porter Davis homes 1394Mar 16, 2011 10:59 am Hey everyone, Building the Darnley29 with Porter. Our land doesn't settle until End of July/August. We have had to reschedule our Tender/Hopturn/Contract twice now due to no access (no soil report) so doing a pre-tender today only giving them a 1.5% (half of the 3%) deposit as it isn't a full tender. WOuld have preferred to hold off on everything until the soil report comes back. But the CSC didn't want this approach ( >.< ) I just want to start now Re: Porter Davis homes 1395Mar 16, 2011 12:28 pm We built the Cremorne 41 with PD 2.5 years ago, and in summary, never ever again !! The workmanship of the tradies was really bad and pretty much everything that could go wrong has. It took over 18 months to get things fixed from settlement and even now, a window in one of our upstairs bedroom looks like its about to fall out. Of course, now that PD has got the money, they dont want to know us. This was supposed to be our dream house... and all it has been is a nightmare. I hope all of you who are currently building have a better experience. Re: Porter Davis homes 1396Mar 16, 2011 4:52 pm puppyso Hi Inverell, Can I ask who did you build with and what kind of documents did they release to you. I was wondering if PD will release all the documents for our appliances with the warranty cards etc.. Just by any chance are you in the reflections estate? tks pup Hi puppyso, To help answer your question, all documents for your appliances including warranties will be given to you at handover of your home. If you require further information on your documents, feel free to ask your Customer Service Administrator for details. I hope that helps. Cheers, Jess Porter Davis Homes Questions? Call 1800PORTER Mon - Fri 9am-8pm Sat - Sun 10am-4pm info@porterdavis.com.au http://blog.porterdavis.com.au/ http://www.porterdavishomes.com.au Re: Porter Davis homes 1397Mar 16, 2011 4:54 pm George's Can anyone help me out here, our SS has made a mistake, which has meant that there are items we asked for, and have in writing that they will be done. they are now not being done until we pay the upgrade cost. This is one of many PCV items (which should be called PD forget's items). Can someone offer me a next step as I am not keen to pay again, our CSA has even advised that it was her mistake. Hi George's, The best way to get clarification on these items is to organise a meeting with your CSA and ask them to go through the items in question in detail. I also recommend putting your queries into writing for your CSA so that they can better help answer your questions. They know your build personally and should be able to discuss this with you & help you out. Let me know how you go. Cheers, Jess. Porter Davis Homes Questions? Call 1800PORTER Mon - Fri 9am-8pm Sat - Sun 10am-4pm info@porterdavis.com.au http://blog.porterdavis.com.au/ http://www.porterdavishomes.com.au Re: Porter Davis homes 1398Mar 16, 2011 4:58 pm tstr1a George's Thanks SSAZ & Tstr1a, I'm following up again this morning. I will post an update, as it seems that they are, as you said covering themselves. Domestic Building Contracts Act 1995 Section 28: Fixtures and fittings are included in contract price The cost of any fixture or fitting shown in the plans and specifications included in a domestic building contract is to be taken as having been included in the contract price unless— (a) the contract states that the fixture or fitting is not included in the contract price; and (b) the building owner places her, his or its signature or seal next to the statement. I'm off to go and re-read my contract tonight, as it appears that "whilst Management agree that I have made the appropriate selection, and this should be supplied only upgraded items are listed in the Contract. As there is no mention of the item in the Contract the conclusion is that it is to be the standard item as the Contract works in conjunction with but overrides the Colour Selection". Not sure how they know how to build my house without all of the documents though I think I've missed something here, but will go and check it out , and await a response from them verbally tomorrow. In no planet do I feel like a customer, or that PD have any desire to make me a happy camper. Initial Deposit 05/09/2010 Tender 21/10/2010 Contract 26/11/2010 Site Start 11 Feb Bricking underway 28/03 Fitout commenced 20/04 PCI 08/07 Settlement 15/07 build Blog http://foxley29.blogspot.com/ Re: Porter Davis homes 1399Mar 16, 2011 5:03 pm Team PD George's Can anyone help me out here, our SS has made a mistake, which has meant that there are items we asked for, and have in writing that they will be done. they are now not being done until we pay the upgrade cost. This is one of many PCV items (which should be called PD forget's items). Can someone offer me a next step as I am not keen to pay again, our CSA has even advised that it was her mistake. Hi George's, The best way to get clarification on these items is to organise a meeting with your CSA and ask them to go through the items in question in detail. I also recommend putting your queries into writing for your CSA so that they can better help answer your questions. They know your build personally and should be able to discuss this with you & help you out. Let me know how you go. Cheers, Jess. Jess, I think that getting things in writing is a joke, as this is precisely why I am in this mess. I asked the question and had a response in writing, and now it is totally invalid. As per above I'll go and read all of my documentation and see where I stand. PD are more than happy to refer to their "Most Professional Builder" tag and all of their advertising until it really matters. Guaranteed site start and Procedure of purchase timeframes are just two of these that are worthless bits of advertising. Initial Deposit 05/09/2010 Tender 21/10/2010 Contract 26/11/2010 Site Start 11 Feb Bricking underway 28/03 Fitout commenced 20/04 PCI 08/07 Settlement 15/07 build Blog http://foxley29.blogspot.com/ Re: Porter Davis homes 1400Mar 16, 2011 5:31 pm fingers crossed independent surveyor’s reports are one thing but independant inspectors reports are another - isnt that right? No volume builders outsource quality control inspections. This is done mostly by the SS. They have a book for every home under construction detailing every stage. They confirm individual items against a thorough checklist for each one of these stages. Whether or not this is properly utilised is a matter for each SS ie. how competent he is or how much time he has to action it thoroughly. I do not expect access to such reports seeing as they are a builder’s informal in-house protocol. The reports I was talking about are independent surveyor’s reports. These are inspections of engineered construction elements ie. footings, slab, frame etc. These reports are hardly worth getting excited over though- they are standard form documents with nothing more than a big tick and signature confirming the stage was passed. Also, these ‘independent’ surveying firms are not exactly impartial. They are commissioned by the builder thus favouring them to get return work. More often than not little technicalities and breaches will simply be overlooked and ignored. In any case, I delayed my progress payments for the slab and frame stages until I was provided these reports, at which point I went mental at the builder because I had unthinkable defects with my home that were overlooked. The best thing to do would be to arrange your own experienced inspector at least twice- just before plastering and at handover. Lunchtime The nightmare client comment is a take on what our SS has already said about us. The thread that you draw attention too is about wanting to cash in on builders errors. I just want my house built to the proper standard as promised by PD and my SS. You need a lesson in comprehension. What I wrote was that “I have a reasonable expectation that my home will be constructed on time, within budget and in accordance with all working drawings and building regulations”. That is my primary objective and desire. If my builder breaches our contract by building a defective house then I will seek damages in the form of monetary compensation to the full extent possible. If what you take from that is that I sit around hoping for errors so I can “cash in” as if I “won lotto” then you are mistaken. puppyso Hi Inverell, Can I ask who did you build with and what kind of documents did they release to you. I was wondering if PD will release all the documents for our appliances with the warranty cards etc.. Yes I am in Reflections- just look for the prettiest house on the street I don’t want to name my builder until I am finished with them. Yes, you should expect user manuals for all appliances. I requested (and eventually obtained) copies of all surveyor reports, engineered drawings for my slab, footings, roof truss layout etc. (these are not the ones included in standard drawings issued to the client). I even received correspondence between the builder and third parties in respect of various problems with my build. Probably received other documents too but can’t remember now. Three options 1 Ask the liquidator 2 Find another PD customer and ask the source of their report 3 Pay for new report 3 14066 I would never build with Fowler homes. I built with them in 2021 and till date maintenance issues are pending. All their existing trades and businesses don't work with… 14 109941 Hi there! Putting the feelers out there for those who have (or almost) built with Arli homes! 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