Browse Forums Building A New House Re: Building with Metricon 8529Jan 25, 2020 11:48 am 3in1 Supadiverta. Rainwater Harvesting Best Practice using syphonic drainage. Cleaner Neater Smarter Cheaper Supa Gutter Pumper. A low cost syphonic eaves gutter overflow solution. Re: Building with Metricon 8531Jan 25, 2020 12:24 pm 3in1 Supadiverta. Rainwater Harvesting Best Practice using syphonic drainage. Cleaner Neater Smarter Cheaper Supa Gutter Pumper. A low cost syphonic eaves gutter overflow solution. Re: Building with Metricon 8534Feb 06, 2020 12:19 pm Hi all, Getting a bit hot under the collar. Waiting for finalized external selection quote. Was advised that we probably need double glazing or SP10 film on some of the windows later on the process for BASIX hence we decided to ask for quotes on all windows, sliding door (SD) and stacking sliding door (SSD) to be in double glazed. We are also upgrading the window frames since the standard one is meh. We have asked for the quote to be itemized so we can clearly see how much are we being charged for each frame for upgrade. Also different sections for double glaze hence we can pick and choose which windows we want to upgrade (assuming the cost will be too high, which indeed is the case) First external variation issued with bulk sum amount for all windows with upgraded frames and double glazed. Total is a nice $42K! And a nice disclaimer with the estimator admin cost ($ 1,500). What a shocker. My eyes are still bulging after I saw that total of $42K, the disclamer just blew head off. Came back to them asking the condition of the profound disclaimer. Man, I feel so loved..... Metricon - Liberty 38 with Provincial facade - Ryde https://forum.homeone.com.au/viewtopic. ... &p=1859996 Re: Building with Metricon 8535Feb 06, 2020 12:53 pm Hi Phoenix77, Without seeing your window schedule if that is an extra $40k+ for double glazing and upgraded aluminium frames (...also assuming the upgrade isn't to 'thermal break'?) then as you suggest this seems a massive rip-off. From memory our build (with a smaller builder though) was around $5-$6k extra for double glazing. This was on a single story house, around ~230 m² of living. We then upgraded to 'semi-commercial' type aluminium frames for half the house, and also added in a laminated glass pane (6.38mm) into the double glazed units (this was for UV and noise control). Anyhow after all these upgrades I think we paid a total of around $12k over the original basic single glazed window price. Keep in mind double glazing is now becoming a fairly standard product for most window fabricators. I spoke to both AGG and Viridian (main two glass suppliers in Aus) and yeah they also commented on how double glazing is fast becoming the norm. One more comment, I personally wouldn't consider only double glazing some windows. I know this is how builders often get across the line with regard to the energy ratings but in reality you should consider at least double glazing all the 'zone-able' areas. If you were going to leave it out in places, I would maybe do it then in areas that might get closed off anyhow when running heating/cooling. But I would definitely double glaze bedrooms and main living zones. For any west facing glazing (and also east) I would budget/plan for external awnings as no matter what you spec your glazing to, it will always be better to stop most of the sun hitting the glass in the first place. We have three west windows I am about to order external awnings for, as after living in the house for a few months these rooms need some additional help with blocking the sun out. Our 600mm eaves on the north side though block the sun from hitting any of our main living area windows. --------------------------------------------------------------------- Check our Homeone build blog here Re: Building with Metricon 8536Feb 06, 2020 1:03 pm I agree with darb74 ... it seems very expensive. We double glazed all 20 plus windows/doors/stackers on a double storey 42 square home last year and the cost was about $7K. To upgrade from sliding aluminium to awning aluminium windows for 9 opening windows, it was another $792. Also, if you are double glazing, don't just to 'some'. To get the effect and get your money's worth, you will need to do all of them. The temp in our house never gets below 17.9 deg (and it has to be very cool at night for even that to happen). The temp is so constant inside, it is great. Not sure whey they are charging you the admin fee - is it because you are doing a post contract variation? Re: Building with Metricon 8537Feb 06, 2020 2:25 pm We are doing a Provincial facade the front windows on both ground and first floor are timber windows and they are quite "intricate" hence the double glazing for those 7 windows are $ 14,800. These windows are west so the hottest but man...... the cost is so prohibitive! For the window frame, instead of upgrading it to Boutique, we are getting Paragon which is different brand but the same/slightly higher quality compare to A&L boutique range. For all other windows, total 16 windows (excluding kitchen and butler's pantry splashback), it is mouth drying $ 22,239 (both frame upgrade to Paragon and double glazing. To upgrade frame to paragon and double glazing for both SD and SSD, it is $ 5,369. Did you upgrade to SP10 or double glazing? But I was advised SP10 is only "slightly cheaper". The only reason why I am upgrading to double glazing is that high probability we will be asked to do this for BASIX. And because we don't have spare $ 42,408 laying around, I reckon we have to nitpick which ones to upgrade. I uploaded floor plans and quotations. As you can see in the quotation, it is a bulk sum. We already have 5 boutique window frames included in the plan but since the external quote is in bulk, we cannot tell whether we are being charged again for these 5 windows. I also not sure why she put a disclaimer about the admin fee. I asked her during our appointment that we would like to know the cost for both double glazing and SP10 so we can analyze the difference. We were told that they can only request 1 quotation at a time. So if I ask for SP10 price then kaching ???? She replied, "I will waive the admin fee". If so, why did she has to put such a scary disclaimer then? Can't stop shaking my head....... What makes things worst is we need to finalize external variation before we can lodge DA. This thing is dragging everything down and the consultant only works Mon, Thurs, Frid, Sat. What a luck! Like ⋅ Add a comment ⋅ Pin to Ideaboard ⋅ Like ⋅ Add a comment ⋅ Pin to Ideaboard ⋅ Like ⋅ Add a comment ⋅ Pin to Ideaboard ⋅ Like ⋅ Add a comment ⋅ Pin to Ideaboard ⋅ Like ⋅ Add a comment ⋅ Pin to Ideaboard ⋅ Like ⋅ Add a comment ⋅ Pin to Ideaboard ⋅ Metricon - Liberty 38 with Provincial facade - Ryde https://forum.homeone.com.au/viewtopic. ... &p=1859996 Re: Building with Metricon 8538Feb 06, 2020 2:32 pm By the way, I was told if I want double glaze for 9 specific windows, the cost will be $13,945 (both glass and frame). I wonder why you guys managed to do it below $10K. Metricon - Liberty 38 with Provincial facade - Ryde https://forum.homeone.com.au/viewtopic. ... &p=1859996 Re: Building with Metricon 8539Feb 06, 2020 4:25 pm Hi again, Just taking a quick look at some of your windows (on the front elevation), are those 'transoms' splitting up the windows into small sections....does that mean each main window sash will have like 6 individual sections of glass? It also looks like most of the windows - at least on your front facade - are awning type? I'll have a better look later once you reply, but one quick comment would be around your west (but also east) glazing. With the west glazing in particular have a think about any potential future options for external awnings/blinds or maybe pergola type structures which could offer some sun protection in summer? ** Is the front of your house facing south or north? I wasn't sure from the elevations sorry. --------------------------------------------------------------------- Check our Homeone build blog here Re: Building with Metricon 8540Feb 06, 2020 7:51 pm darb74 Hi again, Just taking a quick look at some of your windows (on the front elevation), are those 'transoms' splitting up the windows into small sections....does that mean each main window sash will have like 6 individual sections of glass? It also looks like most of the windows - at least on your front facade - are awning type? I'll have a better look later once you reply, but one quick comment would be around your west (but also east) glazing. With the west glazing in particular have a think about any potential future options for external awnings/blinds or maybe pergola type structures which could offer some sun protection in summer? ** Is the front of your house facing south or north? I wasn't sure from the elevations sorry. Thanks Darb74. I googled tansoms quickly and I guess it’s my front facade windows. As per my understanding, if there is a “V” on the window then it’s awning. The front is facing west so will get the most heat. But the cost for those 7 front windows are $14k.... We’re going to use plantation blinds but I don’t how effective they are to block the sun. I cannot do much with the front because it will ruin the provincial facade which M charged $40k ish Metricon - Liberty 38 with Provincial facade - Ryde https://forum.homeone.com.au/viewtopic. ... &p=1859996 Hi, First of all, thank you to this community for sharing your thoughts and opinions. We are in early days of our pre-contract stage for Metricon Doulton and we are… 0 12162 Hello All 🙂 We are planning to start our journey of construction our first home. 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