Browse Forums Building Standards; Getting It Right! Re: Possible Hebel issue - ? Structural problem 2Jul 30, 2017 9:49 am Gaudi Unfortunately photos only take you so far in the investigative process How would you describe Touching the raised surface Is it soft and spongy beneath the surface or hard? Try to establish if it's the textured finish lifting, a substrate or the hebel block? More info required Designer,Engineer (Civil,Const & Envir),Builder,Concrete & Masonry Contract.Struct Repairs Re: Possible Hebel issue - ? Structural problem 3Mar 08, 2018 11:24 am Gaudi Hi, I have a line in render on the Hebel that I think has formed over last few months. Does anyone know if this may be due to structural problem underneath? Like ⋅ Add a comment ⋅ Pin to Ideaboard ⋅ And also an area where Hebel is not level that is highly visible only at night time. Like ⋅ Add a comment ⋅ Pin to Ideaboard ⋅ Any ideas of causes of these types of problems? I moved in into the new home about 6 mths ago. I will raise with the builder in next couple of weeks but am seeking some information first. Thank you. Did you find out if it was a Hebel Problem? I am thinking on building with hebel so curious,Thanks Re: Possible Hebel issue - ? Structural problem 4Mar 18, 2018 7:52 am Hi New journey Sorry about delay. My inspector and builder both said it’s the render. Haven’t had structural issues with it. Some Cosmetic issues only in Hebel/render that I have asked the builder to assist with. The one in photo is on side of house so I’m not fussed about now I know it’s not structural. Only negative thing I will say about Hebel - limits use of retractable awnings, and I really don’t want to have things screwed into it. It does chip or dent if hit by trades etc, but easy enough to have fixed I guess. I do think it helps with temps inside the house. Good luck Re: Possible Hebel issue - ? Structural problem 5Mar 18, 2018 8:36 am Hi Gaudi Thanks for the update You have highlighted one of the major considerations when selecting Building Materials, ie Hardness Properties, Durability, Stiffness, Water absorption, Compressive strength, Softening Coefficient, etc,etc Goodluck with long term maintenance. OT. As an Expert in Structural Repairs here's my 2c 1. Always Select wisely.. don't get sucked into how it looks in (Artistic) renderings..(which don't factor in time in calculations.) 2. You will be fussy at first, long term most just throw in the (maintenance/repair) towel 3. Please consider "The laws of inverse proportion between time and maintenance cost-> longer the 1/time = lower the costs 4. Non-compliance is becoming a major issue with repairs, Don't get stuck with " Something else has caused that problem-> No Warranty" Alternatively if you are going to "Flip it short term"..then it becomes someone else's issue?... tho not for structural Designer,Engineer (Civil,Const & Envir),Builder,Concrete & Masonry Contract.Struct Repairs Re: Possible Hebel issue - ? Structural problem 6Mar 18, 2018 9:58 am Hi Structural BIM guy I agree. Hebel has some good qualities, but hardness is not one of them. I remember as a kid playing with a ball and bat against a brick house. I’d maybe allow a nerf ball here I should clarify the cosmetic issues I’ve spoken to builder about were more due to rendering quality or minor installation issue than due to the Hebel itself. I’ve had a pergola installed instead of a retractable awning, and found trades that respect Hebel and are careful when screwing fences etc into it when completing landscaping, and my trades have not caused any issues despite tight side path ways.... even a mini excavator. Builders trades are not so careful and did cause a few chips in Hebel when walking around with tools. I havent has any other issues with the Hebel... but early days in terms of a house.... just over a year. Thermal qualities seem good. And in combination with double glazed windows it does seem to have some noise dampening from street noise as my home is quiet. I wonder based on observations of very local new homes if the Hebel movement joints fair better than brick in terms of settlement cracks visible in render? Re: Possible Hebel issue - ? Structural problem 7Mar 18, 2018 1:27 pm Engineers design and build in redundancy, additional supports, fixing ,etc when required particularly on reactive soils. Time will tell.....Check your engineering drawings , monitor & photograph your maintenance and home repairs, keep records,etc Designer,Engineer (Civil,Const & Envir),Builder,Concrete & Masonry Contract.Struct Repairs Re: Possible Hebel issue - ? Structural problem 9Mar 19, 2018 2:58 pm Gaudi Hi New journey Sorry about delay. My inspector and builder both said it’s the render. Haven’t had structural issues with it. Some Cosmetic issues only in Hebel/render that I have asked the builder to assist with. The one in photo is on side of house so I’m not fussed about now I know it’s not structural. Only negative thing I will say about Hebel - limits use of retractable awnings, and I really don’t want to have things screwed into it. It does chip or dent if hit by trades etc, but easy enough to have fixed I guess. I do think it helps with temps inside the house. Good luck Thanks for responding interesting situation what happened after builder issued final invoice? did you list as defect or not does the building surveyor have any responsibility? ie. issuing… 13 47567 1000000% definitely add insulation. I have in my home and it makes a big difference minimising sound transfer. Insulation is pretty cheap and definitely worth it 2 6780 Since you are in the design stage then I would direct your questions, in writing of course, to your designer. Depending on the trust you have in the competence of your… 4 5983 |