Browse Forums Building A New House Re: Disappointed in marketing of Display Homes 2Jul 28, 2008 4:42 pm mmm....donuts Homer Simpson 1956- Links: Site Costs Ready Reckoner | H1 Addiction Medical Advice | Château TDL: The Backyard Re: Disappointed in marketing of Display Homes 5Jul 28, 2008 4:46 pm After doing some research, I went with the rule of add 50% without site costs to be realistic.
So for base price 200k add 100k to have it fitted out to a high standard, (caeserstone, tile upgrades, carpet, structural changes, heating, cooling) then site costs on top of that. That worked out pretty much spot on for me. Jo I leave you to fend for yourself, figure things out yourself. Terrence Malick Re: Disappointed in marketing of Display Homes 6Jul 28, 2008 4:50 pm Thanks guys, I didnt ever think that I would get all the flash fittings and fixtures for $227k but I didnt think the structure as a whole would change, I was expecting to pay more for heating/air, carpets, bigger laundry, better kitchen etc etc but not have the whole design pretty much change. Well I suppose this is an educational process and next time I will work on the babsis of + $100,000 ! Re: Disappointed in marketing of Display Homes 7Jul 28, 2008 4:55 pm Yep I think they're all as bad as each other where this is concerned. We just went in knowing that X was the base price, and that we would be paying extra for anything that looked good..... The displays are all fully kitted out to tempt you - that's where they make their real profit! Solidarity, not solidity.......The Lexicon of Life Re: Disappointed in marketing of Display Homes 8Jul 28, 2008 4:57 pm I'm not surprised they haven't been taken to task over this by ACCC or Fair Trading - it certainly is misleading! After 4 years - we're in! Re: Disappointed in marketing of Display Homes 9Jul 28, 2008 4:58 pm petal isnt that terrible but its so true.. I'll remember that. Anything that looks good will cost more. Including if you want a front door or not because that will be an extra soon too Re: Disappointed in marketing of Display Homes 10Jul 28, 2008 5:02 pm So far I found only Allcastle homes to be reasonable in terms of base price. Their price include what ever you see on display (- coverings and lightings).
Still the cost is increased from 247K (base price) to 347K (tender price) - devank Re: Disappointed in marketing of Display Homes 12Jul 28, 2008 5:10 pm PrincessB petal isnt that terrible but its so true.. I'll remember that. Anything that looks good will cost more. Including if you want a front door or not because that will be an extra soon too Funny you should say that - DH wanted a 2340mm timber & glass pivot door - NOT standard and cost us quite a bit As for our roof tiles......I've complained several times on here about those!!! The most annoying thing was that we saw them on a display, and they gave us a price for them, which we agreed to pay then PD said "Oh no - there 's also extra for sarking and, and.... - the price ended up being 3 times what they originally quoted us!!!!!!!!! Solidarity, not solidity.......The Lexicon of Life Re: Disappointed in marketing of Display Homes 13Jul 28, 2008 5:49 pm well I think it is about time the media got involved and exposed their little game because it is outright deception.
We had same thing when we first went to look at the Newhaven, slimy salesman said yes this is the house as built. says I so what is the total price and he kept going price is as sidplayed swhich could mean anything so after theis rubbish for acouple of minutes I corned him into admitting that the advertised price for was a very baqsic set of inclsusions and to get it to display standard add on about $2ooK. Agree about time consumer afairs ripped into them. ACCC wont doing anything because it is not unfair competition. Lets see hat tool in canberra earns his worth and do something, too busy strutting about like a stuffed turkey and wqving his hands in a grandiose manner. Nope I'm not a fan of his. Just found out wife has pneumonia! Great!! Re: Disappointed in marketing of Display Homes 14Jul 28, 2008 6:04 pm I can understand that the builders want to show the house in the best way they can and maybe even give people ideas as to what is possible but it does get a bit beyond the joke. Some of the extras are so expensive no one would ever consider them.
I originally went through a smaller builder who display their homes basically at the standard configuration. The problem was I like the design but wanted to change the facade and some other things. It took me 5 weeks of going back and fourth with pricing to finally get a quote based on what I wanted. In the end it became too expensive for what it was due to the massive mark-ups with non standard extras. P*D on the other hand had a standard price with a completely non standard display. The good thing though is they gave me a brochure with all their options and fixed prices with them. I had a walk through and every thing I asked about the sale sperson told me off the top of their head what wasn't standard and what the upgrade prices were. Same went for H3nley. The only things they couldn't price immediately were the site costs and things like tiles and bricks. I personally don't care how they display the house as chances are I won't be buying it as per the display no matter what they show and in some ways it's good to be able to see the options for myself to decide whether they are worth the money. The only thing I don't like is not being able to get fixed prices. Re: Disappointed in marketing of Display Homes 15Jul 28, 2008 6:11 pm personally (I just diskile the deceipt and huge markups when you want an option!
Like $4,500 price for double layer of boral soundstop gyprock to HT room, which is only on 2 walls and ceiuling. Mind you cost of material is about $800 tops Got them to drop a grand but still working that excercise with them. Re: Disappointed in marketing of Display Homes 16Jul 28, 2008 6:14 pm This is one of my main gripes about the big name builders, the display homes that don't resemble the base price. Big Name might have a base price on the No 27 Design of $190k and a displayed price of $310k. While Mid Range might sell something similar to the No 27 Design for a base price of $210k and a displayed price of $280k. Of course the Big Name No 27 looks better, because it's displayed to a higher level and the base price is lower, but the Mid Range equivalent to the No 27 Design includes more for the base price and the display is closer to what you get for the base price. Displaying a home 50% above base price is unacceptable and deceptive. Maybe 20% or 30% over might be somewhat representative, but 50% over base price is simply not representative of what you get for your money. Re: Disappointed in marketing of Display Homes 17Jul 28, 2008 6:28 pm I found PD down here in Melbourne were at least upfront about their "extras". Their brochure had a print out of all the "extras" and how much it added up to "above" the standard cost. Of course that was still 70k in most cases!
We were SO annoyed with the display after display of misleading houses that we ready to tell them all to jam it. This is the main reason we ended up with Urbanedge... because the display IS what you get. All the stone bench tops, carpets, flyscreens, fancy ovens, high ceilings are all included in the price. Of course that makes the price a bit higher... but hey Alan and Thuy in Melbourne Building a second time! Re: Disappointed in marketing of Display Homes 18Jul 28, 2008 6:46 pm Toast I found PD down here in Melbourne were at least upfront about their "extras". Their brochure had a print out of all the "extras" and how much it added up to "above" the standard cost. Of course that was still 70k in most cases! We were SO annoyed with the display after display of misleading houses that we ready to tell them all to jam it. This is the main reason we ended up with Urbanedge... because the display IS what you get. All the stone bench tops, carpets, flyscreens, fancy ovens, high ceilings are all included in the price. Of course that makes the price a bit higher... but hey which to heck there were in QLD toooooo Re: Disappointed in marketing of Display Homes 19Jul 28, 2008 7:35 pm Many builders do this, i have been involved in supplying builders with their tapware and sanitary ware for a number of years and yes most choose to display their ultimate package, i think they find it easier to come down than up, but there are a few out there that display (what you see is what you get) and offer up to 3 upgrades. they are few and far between GL with the builder hunting. Re: Disappointed in marketing of Display Homes 20Jul 28, 2008 8:33 pm Toast I found PD down here in Melbourne were at least upfront about their "extras". Their brochure had a print out of all the "extras" and how much it added up to "above" the standard cost. I have to disagree (see my previous post) We are building with PD....in Melbourne. Solidarity, not solidity.......The Lexicon of Life I would never build with Fowler homes. I built with them in 2021 and till date maintenance issues are pending. All their existing trades and businesses don't work with… 14 109207 Hi there! Putting the feelers out there for those who have (or almost) built with Arli homes! Interested in your experiences who've built from their stock home designs… 0 26430 Hi, I am wondering if anyone has built with Montgomery in the last few years on the Northern Beaches? I don't see the see them around, as I would love to ask how happy… 0 3473 |