Browse Forums General Discussion Re: Neighbour taking the 200mm of our land 2Dec 16, 2011 10:26 pm Legally it's your land and they can't build on it. Putting a fence their IMHO is a complete waste of money. Up to you - but really how will you use that piece of land??? Sleven Moved into our Atlantique MkII 36 by Carlisle Homes Re: Neighbour taking the 200mm of our land 3Dec 16, 2011 11:36 pm Share the christmas spirit. What are you going to do with 200mm? Re: Neighbour taking the 200mm of our land 4Dec 17, 2011 4:48 am Quote: Putting a fence their IMHO is a complete waste of money. I agree and can imagine how much rubbish and vermin will collect in the small gap. Arfur Re: Neighbour taking the 200mm of our land 5Dec 17, 2011 5:00 am I beg to differ give an inch take a mile. So much stuff people do these days without asking first and then say oh it doesn't really matter. We had our sisters neighbour just build a big garden bed that looks like cr@p in the front, then built across her boundary. He said oh it doesn't matter, I told him yes it does and why not just build it 200mm in? It's literally 1.5 to 2m wide. Or the people who dump rubbish on the vacant block next to us, as it doesn't matter to them as 'whoever builds will have to remove it'. Meanwhile our place is surrounded by wet rotting piles of rubbish which attracts more rubbish. Then if you sell in the future and the new buyer says I'm not buying unless the boundary is fixed in relation to this 200mm? We're very neighbourly but it works both ways. A neighbour doing something and then asking the question is purposely putting you on the spot so you can't say no. Re: Neighbour taking the 200mm of our land 6Dec 17, 2011 12:11 pm I would want to sit down and discuss it with the neighbour, and more than likely document the agreement that we reach. I would also not be very impressed with a neighbour 'telling' me that they were taking part of my property. Will they be attaching anything to the boundary (clothes line, etc)? If that is the new boundary fence will they pay half the cost if it needs to be repaired / replaced at some point in the future? Are they planning to paint it? Is it possible that a future owner of your property would look to knock it down / convert it to a studio? Re: Neighbour taking the 200mm of our land 7Dec 17, 2011 2:38 pm No to mention if your brick wall becomes the boundary they can then use your wall to mount anything they wish on it without your permission, this may in turn cause damage. The most important in my view is from the resale point of view. If they "use" this land for whatever purpose and you wish to sell the property line in my view should be resurveyed to accommodate this, naturally at their expense, and the title changed accordingly. To not to do in my opinion could result in loads of trouble ion years to come. Settlement 1/2/12 New Shed 23/3/12 Slab poured 27/3/12 Frame complete 4/5/12 Roof complete 1/6/12 LOCKUP 29/6/12 Our new build blog http://kareenhillsownerbuild.blogspot.com/ Re: Neighbour taking the 200mm of our land 8Dec 17, 2011 3:16 pm I wonder what they would have said if the tables were turned and you were there first and claimed some of their land? It doesn't matter what you will do with the land, or if a fence will/will not be erected, or if it's Xmas or whatever, the fact is it's 'your' land and they don't have any right to claim it as theirs. As delatite said what if they want to attach something to the wall and they bring the wall down (or do some damage)...who is liable then? Sitting down and discussing (to me) is not a good option either because it's not binding if the **** hits the fan at sometime down the track. They would need to buy that strip of land and have it all done legally if they really want the land (and you were prepared to sell). Notremaison I have to agree totally with your comments, too many people want things done their way without any consideration to the rightful owner. I go out of my way to be an agreeable neighbour but it's becoming more and more difficult with the attitude of some people who don't respect the property of other people. Re: Neighbour taking the 200mm of our land 9Dec 17, 2011 8:12 pm Many thanks to your opinion, this enlightened me so much. And yes you're right, if we allow our garage wall as a fence, we are unsure of the damages that might happen and yes, it may be difficult for us if we plan to sell the property in the future. Re: Neighbour taking the 200mm of our land 10Dec 17, 2011 8:25 pm Calculate what your market price land value is, get the square meterage of what we are taking about and work out how much it is worth. Then offer to sell it to them at a fair price, its no use to you but it will have some value. Also might help to lower your rates...by a couple of bucks a year lol Re: Neighbour taking the 200mm of our land 11Dec 17, 2011 8:41 pm If it was me, I'd put a fence on the boundary. Mainly because I'd want my wall protected from the neighbour drilling into to mount his pot plant etc. Demolition August 2009, Construction Started September 2009, Completed December 2010 Re: Neighbour taking the 200mm of our land 12Dec 18, 2011 8:19 am Quote: No to mention if your brick wall becomes the boundary they can then use your wall to mount anything they wish on it without your permission, this may in turn cause damage. NO not at all. They would then be encroaching onto your land and the council would certainly look into this, especially if you said you kept your wall 200mm in from the boundary to prevent any neighboring structure being attached to it. But a garden up to the wall, provided they dont attach a trellis etc, is not worth worrying about. I could understand you getting a tad precious if they had taken 200mm along the entire boundary Arfur Re: Neighbour taking the 200mm of our land 13Dec 18, 2011 10:05 am We have visited the house again and they now have left a small gap from our garage wall to their pavement which is good, although it's a lot smaller than 200 mm that's fine as long as when we do the fencing it's still within the boundary. One thing I noticed though, they couldn't look at our face now. The lady actually yelled at me when I rang her , I was just politely asking them to leave a small gap and stick with the boundary. She said it doesn't make sense that we wanted to keep that small space. Although I can fight, I just remained calm. I just could't believed that she was yelling at me, is it because I'm 10 years younger than her that she think I might agree to what they were insisting. Thanks very much, really appreciate your concern, I hope we're neighbours=) Re: Neighbour taking the 200mm of our land 15Dec 18, 2011 1:54 pm I would offer to sell them that piece of land http://lindeman28.blogspot.com - Our building blog Re: Neighbour taking the 200mm of our land 16Dec 18, 2011 2:24 pm Trewman I would offer to sell them that piece of land Can you imagine the paperwork to change the property line and the fees, including stamp duty. Lend it to them yes, but change the boundaries Demolition August 2009, Construction Started September 2009, Completed December 2010 Re: Neighbour taking the 200mm of our land 17Dec 18, 2011 9:08 pm Whilst what has been said above is correct, to a point, this will be based wholly on your longevity in the property. I would have a look at "adverse possession". Essentially if they use it for 15 years and a day they have the ability to own it. Thus your brick wall is also theirs! Check these 2 links in regards to this and it will give you better insight. http://www.liv.asn.au/News-and-Publicat ... in-Victori http://www.lawyersconveyancing.com.au/advposs.asp My advice in regards to this is be very careful what you agree to without written legal advice. Yes it is only a small piece of land and probably of no real value to you, but should you sell, or stay there for a period of time, the legal bills may well outweigh the convenience of letting them use it, without duly drawn up legal documents. Sorry for my pessimistic attitude, but knowledge of similar happenings leads to this conclusion. Settlement 1/2/12 New Shed 23/3/12 Slab poured 27/3/12 Frame complete 4/5/12 Roof complete 1/6/12 LOCKUP 29/6/12 Our new build blog http://kareenhillsownerbuild.blogspot.com/ Re: Neighbour taking the 200mm of our land 18Dec 18, 2011 10:22 pm I am into this rather late but I think it is irrelevant whether such a small piece of land is of use. Its your land and you have your reasons to build the way you have, it is even making me think about the boundary walls of my house. Also I don't think it is a useless space. There are plenty of things that can be stacked in 200mm such as irrigation pipes, lengths of wood etc, but i would want to be able to grab them and also have a can of baygon ready. I think altering boundary lines is not a solution either as it makes it rather wierd and if the future owner wants to knock down and re build he will have to deal with a 200mm step-in, may not be much but it may be the difference between a car or caravan fitting in the future. Ciao Mark Re: Neighbour taking the 200mm of our land 19Dec 19, 2011 3:52 am Quote: The lady actually yelled at me when I rang her , I was just politely asking them to leave a small gap and stick with the boundary. Well you are certainly off to a good neighborly start. I suggest you may be denied access on their land to erect your fence, which they are entitled to do, unless ofcourse you can manage to erect the fence ONLY using the mere 200mm of your land. I suggest you will have a rocky relationship with your new neighbors over such a petty issue. Arfur Re: Neighbour taking the 200mm of our land 20Dec 19, 2011 5:21 am My personal opinion is not to let the use your land. I don't think it's the size in question but the priciple, that is, it is your land which you paid for! Short of selling that part of the land to them they have no right to use it even for a footpath The fastest thing a builder will do is bank your cheque, those systems work perfectly with lightning speed, everything else is slow burn. Just the way it is. 1 9414 Can someone please offer some advice? Im DESPERATE. Because I'm completely and utterly exhausted. How long are variations taking with other companies at the moment? We… 0 19457 Thanks. 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