Browse Forums Building A New House Re: site cost PD 4Mar 28, 2010 6:00 pm Our Build - Places Fairhaven 23+ - https://forum.homeone.com.au/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=28045 Our Landscaping - Belial's Backyard - https://forum.homeone.com.au/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=45375 Re: site cost PD 6Mar 28, 2010 9:54 pm Blog: http://bluemistkids.blogspot.com "Never be afraid to try something new. Remember, amateurs built the ark, and professionals built the Titanic." Re: site cost PD 8Mar 29, 2010 6:33 am lexie Hi we are new to all of this... we are building in the avenue - north cranbourne, building with PD, camberwell 29,we were just told our site costs came to 10k!!!! And this is for a flat block!!! We were told by the sales office according to the engineering plans we had roughly 350mm fall, PD have come back to us saying we have 1200mm of fall with an M class slab which requires pillars to some of the slab and extra storm water drainage.. I'd like to get a second opinion as i think this may be a little excessive or incorrect.. I was told it was pointless to get a second opinion because the warranty wouldnt be covered unless we went with their guy.. Has anyone got any similair site costs near us or has any idea's on our situation.. Also they couldn't find our alloted pegs so im not sure how precise this site cost estimate is.. We were told by the sales office according to the engineering plans we had roughly 350mm fall Land sales staff can be a little "creative" with some of the info they provide. And they're not always knowledgeable. Remember they want a sale.... I'd be inclined to check it myself, as Belial suggested. ...with an M class slab which requires pillars to some of the slab and extra storm water drainage.. Find out why you need piering. Is there something underground that needs protecting (often sewer or drainage pipes in an easement)? Or is it purely due to the fall, or the amount of fill on the land? And this is for a flat block!!! People want flat blocks. Developers provide what people want by dumping lots and lots of fill on vacant land. Potential buyers come along and go: Yippee! A flat block! This will be cheap to build on!! And then have a coronary when they find out that the slab needs to be upgraded and piers added to deal with all the fill. I watched a couple of land releases near us go from a massive crater more than 3m deep to level and flat... the people building there would never know if they hadn't seen it happen. I'm glad I'm not paying their site costs. Ask the developer for a soil compaction report, pronto. PD should take it into account and it might reduce your costs a bit. We have a flat block, and paid $12,500 site costs, including slab upgrade and piering to the rear edge to protect the sewer running through our easement. The soil compaction report showed that piering the entire slab wasn't necessary and we saved $2,000 on the amount in our tender. Ask questions, see if there's any way of reducing the amount. But $10,000 isn't really excessive. Re: site cost PD 9Mar 29, 2010 8:37 am We were also told we need piering due to the result of a soil test which we knew was never even done! After contesting this with the builder the soil test was redone by another company. Funnily enough the 1m of fill the original test said we had was now reduced to only 10cm hence no need for piering and a saving of $6999 to us. Pays to be vigilent and and ask questions. Re: site cost PD 10Mar 29, 2010 12:46 pm MaxD Foundations are probably not the best area to cut corners on. If you were able to save $5,000 but your bricks, plaster and floors crack after a few years, would you be satisfied with that? Probably not... While I do agree with your point of view, engineers should be capable of knowing what is required to do the job without having over kill. There would already be a margin of safety included in the calculations Re: site cost PD 11Mar 29, 2010 12:58 pm ritab25 We were also told we need piering due to the result of a soil test which we knew was never even done! After contesting this with the builder the soil test was redone by another company. Funnily enough the 1m of fill the original test said we had was now reduced to only 10cm hence no need for piering and a saving of $6999 to us. Pays to be vigilent and and ask questions. thanks for this tip. i am having my land soil tested this coming month VICTORY 1800, EN-SUITE, DOUBLE GARAGE, FAMILY ROOM AND ALFRESCO Land Settled: 20 July 2010 Site Scrap: 30 August 2010 Slab Pour: 20 September 2010 Frame Complete: 23 September 2010 Fascia and Gutters: 28 September 2010 Roof Complete: 06 October 2010 Lock-up complete: 28 October 2010 Plaster complete: 29 October 2010 Fix-out complete: 22 Nov 2010 PCI 7 FEBRUARY 2011 Re: site cost PD 12Mar 29, 2010 1:25 pm Lunchtime MaxD Foundations are probably not the best area to cut corners on. If you were able to save $5,000 but your bricks, plaster and floors crack after a few years, would you be satisfied with that? Probably not... While I do agree with your point of view, engineers should be capable of knowing what is required to do the job without having over kill. There would already be a margin of safety included in the calculations I agree completely. I would have been happy to pay the money for the piers had we needed them but paying extra for an overengineered block is money I could better spend elsewhere. Re: site cost PD 13Mar 29, 2010 3:04 pm I got Fixed site costs with PD for a 515sqm block. It came to around $9,000. Very reassuring because my area has a bit of rock But I was expecting up to about $15,000. Re: site cost PD 14Mar 29, 2010 3:51 pm Wow, thank-you everyone for replying to our questions. We have no rock, we have no easements (actually they are a good 10mts away from our block) Our excavation is $47880 Concrete peering are $2045 Services are $3487 (drainage) Our sales person gave us an estimate for around $5000, but that was that the extreme level, hence why when we have seen the cost double we wanted to question it and get some more advice. Having found others in our estate building with PD and having site costs no more then $4000 made us question??? This is our 1st soil test report, and they are currently building our road hence the loose soil at the front of our block from the road. Lets hope that our 2nd site survey makes more sense. Or if there was any other difference….. But now hearing other stories at least we know this cost maybe just ok..... You have all been so helpful!!! Re: site cost PD 16Mar 29, 2010 4:57 pm Lunchtime lexie Our excavation is $47880 how far down are they digging? China? Nah i'd say they're getting the apprentice to do it with a trowel, should pay his wages for the year or so... Think lexie probably meant $4780 as that would total it to around the 10k figure being talked about. Our Build - Places Fairhaven 23+ - https://forum.homeone.com.au/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=28045 Our Landscaping - Belial's Backyard - https://forum.homeone.com.au/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=45375 Re: site cost PD 18Mar 31, 2010 9:17 am Our site costs with PD are about $20k, sloping block, HD slab, piering, lots of fill and lots of rock blasting and removal. Plus we've got retaining walls to get done. So many hidden and extra costs. Oh well. We're too far along the whole process to care too much now. Just wanna get the house up and move in. Mind you, initially we were told sites costs would be less than $10k...haha. No one had any idea until the 2 soil tests were completed. Life is; then you tell yourself a story. Re: site cost PD 19Mar 31, 2010 3:03 pm our site costs were $3000, the contract allowed for about $5500 and Bbank credited us the remaing amount. Didn't realise how lucky we were looking at some of these other numbers. Arnolds Creek Melton West Evolution 2300 Re: site cost PD 20Mar 31, 2010 5:18 pm Bron our site costs were $3000, the contract allowed for about $5500 and Bbank credited us the remaing amount. Didn't realise how lucky we were looking at some of these other numbers. Wow, that's pretty amazing! It's hard to say, I'm scared of hitting rock so I have fixed site costs just in case .. Thanks for the insight! My plot is a new development so hopefully I won't have too much problem during build as everyone should be roughly building together. I also… 2 3674 Approvals are covered in the cost we are paying to the pool company. The only thing stated in our home build contract for the additional cost is engineering support. … 3 7728 Elvis has left the building... The site supervisor quit after 2 month on the project. I guess he was just instructed to bark at people, but didn't like when he was… 26 21665 |