Browse Forums Building A New House Re: Builder suspended works, demanding variations, cost incr 5Jul 19, 2023 11:20 pm Foremost Building Expert in Australia,assisting with building problems/disputes, building stage inspections,pre-contract review advice for peace of mind 200 blogs http://www.buildingexpert.net.au/blog Re: Builder suspended works, demanding variations, cost incr 9Jul 21, 2023 2:47 pm ponzutwo agent0387 Was asked to by builder, advised needed funds to continue works and kept pushing me. this was your first red flag. Im surprised your bank released funds to be honest. You know banks, never do inspections other than slab and then at practical completion. they should really be doing more before releasing such large amounts. Re: Builder suspended works, demanding variations, cost incr 10Jul 21, 2023 6:29 pm agent0387 ponzutwo this was your first red flag. Im surprised your bank released funds to be honest. You know banks, never do inspections other than slab and then at practical completion. they should really be doing more before releasing such large amounts. i thought they only do the final, i don't think mine did slab. but my payment authorisation form had a declaration to confirm that the works have actually been completed for that stage, so if i said 'yes' and they weren't, i would be committing a crime that starts with a letter 'f' and for some reason forum is not allowing me to mention Re: Builder suspended works, demanding variations, cost incr 11Jul 21, 2023 6:38 pm strannik agent0387 ponzutwo this was your first red flag. Im surprised your bank released funds to be honest. You know banks, never do inspections other than slab and then at practical completion. they should really be doing more before releasing such large amounts. i thought they only do the final, i don't think mine did slab. but my payment authorisation form had a declaration to confirm that the works have actually been completed for that stage, so if i said 'yes' and they weren't, i would be committing a crime that starts with a letter 'f' and for some reason forum is not allowing me to mention While I understand your point of view, I don’t exactly agree. Clients aren’t builders and not privy to trade practices or long winded clauses and contracts, yes some responsibility lays with the client but really there should be laws put in place to ensure these key elements are scrutinised and followed properly. A BIG part of the responsibility also is with the lenders and banks who give out loans with their eyes closed and make payments for large invoices and progress payments without nothing but a phone call or email. Australia’s building industry is in dire failings and with Covid, inflation, and a flurry of d word builders there needs to be reforms to protect both consumers and builders from their own catastrophic failures. There is an unprecedented level of insolvency and bankruptcy amongst the industry and the governments needs to step in and do something about it, enough is enough. We are talking about people’s livelihoods here. Re: Builder suspended works, demanding variations, cost incr 12Jul 22, 2023 9:46 am You don't have to be a builder to check if the work you're paying for has been completed. It's pretty easy to see whether the slab is there or not, the frame is there, etc. No regulation is going to help if the clients simply ignore it and hand over the money. And if the clients don't understand the contract - that's why those contracts have a warning to go and get independent legal advice. Re: Builder suspended works, demanding variations, cost incr 13Jul 22, 2023 6:27 pm agent0387 strannik agent0387 You know banks, never do inspections other than slab and then at practical completion. they should really be doing more before releasing such large amounts. i thought they only do the final, i don't think mine did slab. but my payment authorisation form had a declaration to confirm that the works have actually been completed for that stage, so if i said 'yes' and they weren't, i would be committing a crime that starts with a letter 'f' and for some reason forum is not allowing me to mention While I understand your point of view, I don’t exactly agree. Clients aren’t builders and not privy to trade practices or long winded clauses and contracts, yes some responsibility lays with the client but really there should be laws put in place to ensure these key elements are scrutinised and followed properly. A BIG part of the responsibility also is with the lenders and banks who give out loans with their eyes closed and make payments for large invoices and progress payments without nothing but a phone call or email. Australia’s building industry is in dire failings and with Covid, inflation, and a flurry of d word builders there needs to be reforms to protect both consumers and builders from their own catastrophic failures. There is an unprecedented level of insolvency and bankruptcy amongst the industry and the governments needs to step in and do something about it, enough is enough. We are talking about people’s livelihoods here. I love how you waver between accepting some responsibility and the in the same sentence putting that responsibility on other parties than yourself. Fact is, your builder effed you, and you let it happen despite red flags all over the place that are visible to any reasonable person. Your only course of avenue here is through your lawyer. Re: Builder suspended works, demanding variations, cost incr 14Jul 22, 2023 8:18 pm Thanks for stating the obvious, very productive member of the forum you must be. Your useless input is greatly appreciated, find another thread to post your toxicity. Have a great day =) Re: Builder suspended works, demanding variations, cost incr 17Jul 23, 2023 9:42 am agent0387 Thanks for stating the obvious, very productive member of the forum you must be. Your useless input is greatly appreciated, find another thread to post your toxicity. Have a great day =) Lol, See, deflecting again. Hard to accept you fd up, huh? Good luck with your predicament buddy 👍 Re: Builder suspended works, demanding variations, cost incr 18Jul 23, 2023 11:19 am ponzutwo agent0387 Thanks for stating the obvious, very productive member of the forum you must be. Your useless input is greatly appreciated, find another thread to post your toxicity. Have a great day =) Lol, See, deflecting again. Hard to accept you fd up, huh? Good luck with your predicament buddy 👍 Useless reply, why even bother? Find another thread to post to troll on. Every forum has toxic trolls. Lol we need special badges for people like you. Nothing interesting going for you, must be boring being you. I bet your fun at parties =) Enjoy the day pops Re: Builder suspended works, demanding variations, cost incr 19Jul 24, 2023 1:25 pm If you were in Victoria I would tell you that if your builder has not followed statutory and contract protocol in relation to variations then the builder is not entitled to be paid for those variations. As for money paid already, it is your fault for paying for work that is not done, suck it up. Foremost Building Expert in Australia,assisting with building problems/disputes, building stage inspections,pre-contract review advice for peace of mind 200 blogs http://www.buildingexpert.net.au/blog Re: Builder suspended works, demanding variations, cost incr 20Jul 24, 2023 2:36 pm agent0387 Useless reply, why even bother? Find another thread to post to troll on. Every forum has toxic trolls. Lol we need special badges for people like you. Nothing interesting going for you, must be boring being you. I bet your fun at parties =) Enjoy the day pops hahahahah mate.... 4 houses built, no issues. 3 returning decent yield and the forever home is beautiful. You got stooged on your first one and its unlikley this will end well for you. Enjoy the day indeed How are you doing Ben? Extremely interested in hearing what you are doing or plan to do! 12 15639 Sorry to hear. All the advice you are going to get on this one comes down to what your contract says and what variations are allowed and the mechanism for them. For… 1 2854 I can help you with all that, you can PM me with details if you wish 3 6119 |