Browse Forums General Discussion Re: Retaining Wall Badly Damaged. 12Sep 08, 2021 10:49 pm Honestly the wall was in really good condition so I am disappointed. It was a limestone retaining wall. Not more than 3 years old (from visual inspection). I'll try get more info from the builder and what actually caused the damage Re: Retaining Wall Badly Damaged. 13Sep 09, 2021 5:31 am daniel81991 Honestly the wall was in really good condition so I am disappointed. It was a limestone retaining wall. Not more than 3 years old (from visual inspection). I'll try get more info from the builder and what actually caused the damage Daniel811991 Sorry to hear you are having issues. Do you have any photos so we can see the nature and extent of the damage? there are some really clever people on here that might be able to come up with a practical solution for your problem if we can actually quantify it:) Cheers Simeon Architectural Homes & Duplexes - specialising in custom designing homes to your budget Get a Free Onsite Consultation Today or send a PM for information, questions or advice. Re: Retaining Wall Badly Damaged. 14Sep 09, 2021 6:34 am Moudzj. Are you serious? The builder doesn't even know if there are no footings. The op says the builder says "there MAY not be footings". They don't know. Again the issue came up AFTER the builders subbie damaged the wall which before wasn't in question. The reason im quick to blame the builder on this is because of the timing and series of events. A good builder doing any work around or on an retaining wall would have verified the engineering before touching it. Not after they damaged it to get out of fixing it. Not an uncommon escape route by contractors/builders. Surely you're not daft?! Dark matter scientist, can breathe underwater, mind reader and can freeze matter just by willing it. Trust me, its in my sig. Re: Retaining Wall Badly Damaged. 15Sep 09, 2021 9:00 am Noname Moudzj. Are you serious? The builder doesn't even know if there are no footings. The op says the builder says "there MAY not be footings". They don't know. Again the issue came up AFTER the builders subbie damaged the wall which before wasn't in question. The reason im quick to blame the builder on this is because of the timing and series of events. A good builder doing any work around or on an retaining wall would have verified the engineering before touching it. Not after they damaged it to get out of fixing it. Not an uncommon escape route by contractors/builders. Surely you're not daft?! I see this completely differently to you, my friend. Had the client not asked for the builder to have a sparky complete works on the wall, nothing further would have happened, and this would have not come up. I would argue that he is lucky that this did happen, if the wall is indeed inadequate. I am not interested in going off conspiracies or hearsay, I take the OP's words at face value only. Re: Retaining Wall Badly Damaged. 16Sep 09, 2021 9:14 am Lol "hysterical". OK "friend". I suspect you're a tradie that's used such useful escape routes before. There's nothing hysterical about this given its not uncommon. Ops comments were taken absolutely at face value here too. Where is the conspiracy or here say? I am literally referring to exactly what the OP has written. Its not conspiracy when its happened enough times in the industry for it to have given trades a bad name already. The builder can't even definitively even state if the wall is inadequate, only that it may be, and may incur extra cost to fix if it fails etc. This is the red flag for the obvious escape route. We have to take at face value that the guy that installed the wall in the first place had the appropriate engineering sorted given its height. It beggars belief that a builder would not be able to definitely conclude its validity in such an excuse. Imagine taking your car to get a service and asking for a wheel alignment too, coming back and having all four wheels off and the mechanic telling you " they were 'probably' bald, but if you want to drive out of here today you need to buy 4 new ones" Dark matter scientist, can breathe underwater, mind reader and can freeze matter just by willing it. Trust me, its in my sig. Re: Retaining Wall Badly Damaged. 17Sep 09, 2021 9:17 am Noname Lol "hysterical". OK "friend". I suspect you're a tradie that's used such usefull escape routes before. There's nothing hysterical about this given its not uncommon. Litterally happens all the time. Ops comments were taken absolutely at face value here too. The builder can't even definitvely even state if the wall is inadequate, only that it may be, and may incur extra cost to fix if it fails etc. This is the red flag for the obvious escape route. We have to take at face value that the guy that installed the wall in the first place had the appropriate engineering sorted given its height. It beggars belief that a builder would not be able to definitely conclude its validity in such an excuse. Imagine taking your car to get a service, coming back and having all four wheels off and the mechanic telling you " they were 'probably' bald, but unsure as I don't have sight of them anymore, but if you want to drive out of here today you need to buy 4 new ones" Its a limestone retaining wall in a subdivision. Ive seen tens of these which have been replaced due to warranty and afew which have failed - they are like a mass produced retaining wall in a sweatshop. Built like crap, and as cheap as possible. Have you actually seen any of these particular walls being built? I know these walls better than anyone. Re: Retaining Wall Badly Damaged. 18Sep 09, 2021 9:24 am moudzj Noname Lol "hysterical". OK "friend". I suspect you're a tradie that's used such usefull escape routes before. There's nothing hysterical about this given its not uncommon. Litterally happens all the time. Ops comments were taken absolutely at face value here too. The builder can't even definitvely even state if the wall is inadequate, only that it may be, and may incur extra cost to fix if it fails etc. This is the red flag for the obvious escape route. We have to take at face value that the guy that installed the wall in the first place had the appropriate engineering sorted given its height. It beggars belief that a builder would not be able to definitely conclude its validity in such an excuse. Imagine taking your car to get a service, coming back and having all four wheels off and the mechanic telling you " they were 'probably' bald, but unsure as I don't have sight of them anymore, but if you want to drive out of here today you need to buy 4 new ones" Its a limestone retaining wall in a subdivision. Ive seen tens of these which have been replaced due to warranty and afew which have failed - they are like a mass produced retaining wall in a sweatshop. Built like crap, and as cheap as possible. Have you actually seen any of these particular walls being built? I know these walls better than anyone. just as suspected. how many times have you managed to escape liability after damaging stuff mate? "was a $hit wall anyway mate, youre lucky we picked it up" lol Dark matter scientist, can breathe underwater, mind reader and can freeze matter just by willing it. Trust me, its in my sig. Re: Retaining Wall Badly Damaged. 19Sep 09, 2021 8:54 pm Gents, thanks for your comments. I can sense the passion here! For your info I attached a couple photos 1. of the damange 2. of the other side of the wall for an idea of how it looked before. https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img923/9528/2aG2pZ.jpg https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img923/6753/osRbLg.jpg Re: Retaining Wall Badly Damaged. 20Sep 09, 2021 9:17 pm daniel81991 Gents, thanks for your comments. I can sense the passion here! For your info I attached a couple photos 1. of the damange 2. of the other side of the wall for an idea of how it looked before. https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img923/9528/2aG2pZ.jpg https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img923/6753/osRbLg.jpg Bugger. This isnt damaged, this is complete failure lol. Definitely sparkies fault, not what I imagined at all. But, in defence of the sparky, this isnt a retaining wall - its afew crappy lightweight blocks, laid on a bed of mortar with clearly no mortar in any of the extrusions. No footing appears to be visible either, all layed at NGL - whoever built this needs to be deported. In my opinion, this was unavoidable - but the bottom line is that it is the builders fault. He should have been able to identify this before any work took place. Thank you again Simeon.. I will call my certifier for that. Have a good day 4 6756 It's hard to comment as the photos area bit dark ( you might need a new 15 - just got one and wow ) Jokes aside, I can see one member that is cracked. I would find a… 2 2436 The coupling, which is made from flexible PVC, needs to comply with AS/NZS 4327 which specifies the requirements for metal banded flexible couplings used in low-pressure… 1 2220 |