Browse Forums Building A New House The parties have reached a mutual understanding in resolutio 181Jul 02, 2019 1:36 pm Simeon McGovern Affordable Custom Homes, We design and build to your budget Ashington Homes www.ashingtonhomes.com.au The parties have reached a mutual understanding in resolutio 183Jul 02, 2019 2:08 pm alexp79 Alas! Was this type of flooring specifically provisioned/signed off by the structural engineer and certifier? Hebel PowerFloor is 75 mm, so quite surprised to see 50 mm panels on the floor, I guess this had to be designed in and signed off by the structural engineer first and your certifier later. In general, AAC panels are certainly better but more expensive alternative to yellow tongue. As well as MgO floor panels, they only need to be 18 mm for the floor and are firesafe and waterproof when joints are properly sealed. The parties have reached a mutual understanding in resolution of each of the other parties concerns Simeon McGovern Affordable Custom Homes, We design and build to your budget Ashington Homes www.ashingtonhomes.com.au Re: Builder demands $201,118 for non compliant defective wor 184Jul 02, 2019 2:23 pm SejaeD As both Hebel and this other company offer free training to installers, I also didnt realise that the builder would use the same untrained muppets who erected my frames to put the floors in. They were so bad that they tried cutting the panels with a chainsaw rather than a diamond bladed circular saw which shattered many panels. You are joking right? I have never thought about 'floor installers' having to be trained. Is this just a manufacturer's requirement or is it also a more industry extensive requirement? 3in1 Supadiverta. Rainwater Harvesting Best Practice using syphonic drainage. Cleaner Neater Smarter Cheaper Supa Gutter Pumper. A low cost syphonic eaves gutter overflow solution. Re: Builder demands $201,118 for non compliant defective wor 185Jul 02, 2019 2:26 pm So the owner was okay that 50 mm 1.1 MPa wall panels were used for the structural flooring and was rather recommending to use better installers? Correct me if I am wrong, but aren't the minimum live loads are around 1.5 MPa or something for residential flooring? Can you remove them from the inside? Why to remove roof? Re: Builder demands $201,118 for non compliant defective wor 186Jul 02, 2019 7:03 pm alexp79 So the owner was okay that 50 mm 1.1 MPa wall panels were used for the structural flooring and was rather recommending to use better installers? Correct me if I am wrong, but aren't the minimum live loads are around 1.5 MPa or something for residential flooring? Can you remove them from the inside? Why to remove roof? Yeah thats what I thought in regards to 1.5mpa live load and that was regularly achieve using yellow tongue for the average build. Re: Builder demands $201,118 for non compliant defective wor 187Jul 02, 2019 9:13 pm SejaeD The codes recommend a live load of 1.5KPa although I've seen a few thin composite slabs lately designed for 1KPa spanning large distances these may have long term serviceability/deflection and cracking problems If this is the case I suggest you start monitoring your build and keep records..I will put some code tolerance checks up and tag you in hth Designer,Engineer (Civil,Const & Envir),Builder,Concrete & Masonry Contract.Struct Repairs The parties have reached a mutual understanding in resolutio 188Jul 03, 2019 2:28 pm SaveH2O SejaeD As both Hebel and this other company offer free training to installers, I also didnt realise that the builder would use the same untrained muppets who erected my frames to put the floors in. They were so bad that they tried cutting the panels with a chainsaw rather than a diamond bladed circular saw which shattered many panels. You are joking right? I have never thought about 'floor installers' having to be trained. Is this just a manufacturer's requirement or is it also a more industry extensive requirement? The parties have reached a mutual understanding in resolution of each of the other parties concerns Simeon McGovern Affordable Custom Homes, We design and build to your budget Ashington Homes www.ashingtonhomes.com.au The parties have reached a mutual understanding in resolutio 189Jul 03, 2019 2:29 pm StructuralBIMGuy @SejaeD The codes recommend a live load of 1.5KPa although I've seen a few thin composite slabs lately designed for 1KPa spanning large distances these may have long term serviceability/deflection and cracking problems If this is the case I suggest you start monitoring your build and keep records..I will put some code tolerance checks up and tag you in The parties have reached a mutual understanding in resolution of each of the other parties concerns Simeon McGovern Affordable Custom Homes, We design and build to your budget Ashington Homes www.ashingtonhomes.com.au One AAC panel specifications 190Jul 03, 2019 2:41 pm StructuralBIMGuy @SejaeD The codes recommend a live load of 1.5KPa although I've seen a few thin composite slabs lately designed for 1KPa spanning large distances these may have long term serviceability/deflection and cracking problems If this is the case I suggest you start monitoring your build and keep records..I will put some code tolerance checks up and tag you in hth Specification for the 50mm floor panelsLike ⋅ Add a comment ⋅ Pin to Ideaboard ⋅ Simeon McGovern Affordable Custom Homes, We design and build to your budget Ashington Homes www.ashingtonhomes.com.au One AAC instructions 191Jul 03, 2019 2:57 pm Simeon McGovern Affordable Custom Homes, We design and build to your budget Ashington Homes www.ashingtonhomes.com.au The parties have reached a mutual understanding in resolutio 192Jul 03, 2019 3:07 pm alexp79 So the owner was okay that 50 mm 1.1 MPa wall panels were used for the structural flooring and was rather recommending to use better installers? Correct me if I am wrong, but aren't the minimum live loads are around 1.5 MPa or something for residential flooring? Can you remove them from the inside? Why to remove roof? Alex I just pulled up their specs for the wall and floor panels and they are exactly the same so i guess he is okay with it. Will need some engineering guru to interpret the data Unfortunately they cant be removed from the inside as they sit under the bottom plates of the frames The parties have reached a mutual understanding in resolution of each of the other parties concerns Simeon McGovern Affordable Custom Homes, We design and build to your budget Ashington Homes www.ashingtonhomes.com.au Re: Builder demands $201,118 for non compliant defective wor 193Jul 03, 2019 3:45 pm so where live load data is coming from? So you would need to dismantle upper level and roof framing (lift with crane?), remove panels, buy and install yellow tongue, attach framing back.. All this for just $11K? Sounds like really good offer to me. Re: Builder demands $201,118 for non compliant defective wor 194Jul 03, 2019 4:59 pm It seems to me that the flooring change should have been a subject of an amended building permit in which case BS would have had the opportunity to review the proposal to use floor panels in lieu of yellow tongue. Was it done? Foremost Building Expert in Australia,assisting with building problems/disputes, building stage inspections,pre-contract review advice for peace of mind 200 blogs http://www.buildingexpert.net.au/blog AAC Flooring Advice 195Jul 03, 2019 5:50 pm alexp79 so where live load data is coming from? So you would need to dismantle upper level and roof framing (lift with crane?), remove panels, buy and install yellow tongue, attach framing back.. All this for just $11K? Sounds like really good offer to me. Yellow tongue has to go over the current AAC panels and be screwed down with 140mm bugles Like ⋅ Add a comment ⋅ Pin to Ideaboard ⋅ Simeon McGovern Affordable Custom Homes, We design and build to your budget Ashington Homes www.ashingtonhomes.com.au AAC flooring advice 196Jul 03, 2019 6:08 pm building-expert It seems to me that the flooring change should have been a subject of an amended building permit in which case BS would have had the opportunity to review the proposal to use floor panels in lieu of yellow tongue. Was it done? Thanks for your reply. Simeon McGovern Affordable Custom Homes, We design and build to your budget Ashington Homes www.ashingtonhomes.com.au Re: Builder demands $201,118 for non compliant defective wor 197Jul 03, 2019 6:21 pm SejaeD Who designed the floor joists, what loading and what was the Short & Long term deflection limits? Then check it against the actual deflection in your floor joists,which will only get worse over time I think you might find the joists are undersized for those panels and this will be reflected in sagging joists Either way Structural changes need to be checked and signed off by the engineer.hth Designer,Engineer (Civil,Const & Envir),Builder,Concrete & Masonry Contract.Struct Repairs Re: Builder demands $201,118 for non compliant defective wor 198Jul 03, 2019 6:28 pm SejaeD A bit hard to pull the roof and frame down now! Yellow tongue has to go over the current AAC panels and be screwed down with 140mm bugles Why would you put Yellow tongue flooring over the cracking AAC Panels... you are just masking over another problem? Designer,Engineer (Civil,Const & Envir),Builder,Concrete & Masonry Contract.Struct Repairs The parties have reached a mutual understanding in resolutio 199Jul 03, 2019 6:29 pm StructuralBIMGuy @SejaeD Who designed the floor joists, what loading and what was the Short & Long term deflection limits? Then check it against the actual deflection in your floor joists,which will only get worse over time I think you might find the joists are undersized for those panels and this will be reflected in sagging joists Either way Structural changes need to be checked and signed off by the engineer.hth The parties have reached a mutual understanding in resolution of each of the other parties concerns Simeon McGovern Affordable Custom Homes, We design and build to your budget Ashington Homes www.ashingtonhomes.com.au The parties have reached a mutual understanding in resolutio 200Jul 03, 2019 6:33 pm StructuralBIMGuy SejaeD A bit hard to pull the roof and frame down now! Yellow tongue has to go over the current AAC panels and be screwed down with 140mm bugles Why would you put Yellow tongue flooring over the cracking AAC Panels... you are just masking over another problem? The parties have reached a mutual understanding in resolution of each of the other parties concerns Simeon McGovern Affordable Custom Homes, We design and build to your budget Ashington Homes www.ashingtonhomes.com.au ask the surveyor for clarification would be the logical approach 1 20722 Thanks mate. Yeah good points! Leaning towards Option 3 to get a bit extra space in the cabinets but not going too crazy high (and expensive). Would require a mini… 13 41378 Hi All, I just wanted to close this topic out with an update. So we ended up agreeing to a number with the insurance company, and after an extensive amount of hand… 8 24561 |