Browse Forums Building A New House Re: Hebel Or Bricks 4Jun 14, 2018 2:48 pm Designer,Engineer (Civil,Const & Envir),Builder,Concrete & Masonry Contract.Struct Repairs Re: Hebel Or Bricks 6Mar 20, 2019 9:00 am Designer,Engineer (Civil,Const & Envir),Builder,Concrete & Masonry Contract.Struct Repairs Re: Hebel Or Bricks 8Mar 20, 2019 9:36 am Of course hebel has to be rendered, which requires maintenance, as it starts to look tired after a few years And are looks important to you - do you want render or face brick? Re: Hebel Or Bricks 9Mar 20, 2019 9:37 am You should be doing the preliminary Design,Engineering and costings before you go to council You will be slugged with price increases, additional costs, delays,etc, with any changes thereafter? hth Designer,Engineer (Civil,Const & Envir),Builder,Concrete & Masonry Contract.Struct Repairs Re: Hebel Or Bricks 10Mar 20, 2019 9:50 am brokenstick Of course hebel has to be rendered, which requires maintenance, as it starts to look tired after a few years And are looks important to you - do you want render or face brick? I preferred to have face brick as it gives bold look to the house. But, my project manager thinks it good to use hebel panel render thereafter to cut down the cost as my land is inclined and he thinks using bricks will be expensive in terms of labour costs and time. But, my thinking is if going with bricks only make difference of around $10k to $20k then I am happy go with brick than hebel including insulation and everything. And he has no idea how much will be the cost difference between hebel and bricks, but he says brick will be expensive as per his devleoping experience. Re: Hebel Or Bricks 11Mar 20, 2019 9:55 am StructuralBIMGuy You should be doing the preliminary Design,Engineering and costings before you go to council You will be slugged with price increases, additional costs, delays,etc, with any changes thereafter? hth the preliminary design has been done and submitted to council for plans and permit approvals but now council has come up with some issue to resolve before going ahead with decision. They have asked for external material and colours for the house to submit before they approve the plans and permits designs. Re: Hebel Or Bricks 12Mar 20, 2019 9:58 am Also, saying that my project manager said using hebel will save a lot of money in scaffolding compare to bricks. But wondering does scaffolding cost too much money and if yes how much $5k, $10k $20k. Any rough estimate. It is a 23sq house on inclined land. Re: Hebel Or Bricks 13Mar 20, 2019 10:22 am rameshbhai Also, saying that my project manager said using hebel will save a lot of money in scaffolding compare to bricks. But wondering does scaffolding cost too much money and if yes how much $5k, $10k $20k. Any rough estimate. It is a 23sq house on inclined land. Hebel walls come up quicker than Brick....thus requiring scaffolding rental for less time. Re: Hebel Or Bricks 14Mar 20, 2019 10:34 am Scaffolding Costs are less than $500/wk and the reason the council wants to know the building materials is they don't want it to Burn Down or Structurally Collapse Designer,Engineer (Civil,Const & Envir),Builder,Concrete & Masonry Contract.Struct Repairs Re: Hebel Or Bricks 15Mar 20, 2019 10:42 am Thanks for your suggestions. So, now I have to decide if I go with hebel or brick? is hebel as durable as brick? Re: Hebel Or Bricks 16Mar 20, 2019 10:51 am rameshbhai Welcome to the forum Try Googling Is hebel as durable as brick? & Check out Material Mechanical properties,etc For project specific Data and Proofs use Building Information Modelling (BIM) on ur project eg. Slab and Form work Costs Designer,Engineer (Civil,Const & Envir),Builder,Concrete & Masonry Contract.Struct Repairs Re: Hebel Or Bricks 17Mar 20, 2019 10:57 am Also consider your finish. Render is like paint and will look old and worn after a while and need repainting if you wish Brick will pretty much look the same forever Re: Hebel Or Bricks 18Mar 20, 2019 11:06 am I read other forums and some say the repainting require after 7 to 8 years and that too depends on the area you live. wondering if it will cost too much to use bricks or hebel panels on an inclined land. The land is 2 meters inclined. Re: Hebel Or Bricks 19Mar 20, 2019 12:57 pm A carpenter can put up Hebel in a few days whereas bricking may take a month or more and requires brickies. You don’t actually do any maintenance to the actual Hebel, Hebel is reinforced aerated concrete panels, the maintenance comes because the Hebel is rendered and painted. Any painted surface will require ongoing maintenance especially surfaces facing West. The render can crack especially if the renderer is a cowboy type and doesn’t do it properly, but a read through this forum will show the issues with brickies doing horrible brick work jobs also. Bricks virtually zero maintenance but will always be the same unless you render over and paint. Hebel whilst requiring ongoing maintenance always give you the opportunity to completely change the look of your house. From my research Hebel also comes out better for its insulation properties and sound deadening compared to brick. Re: Hebel Or Bricks 20Mar 20, 2019 2:15 pm All else being equal, Hebel should mean better insulation & quicker installation & an ability to patch over the final finish, with face bricks once it's done it's done. Additionally, does Hebel require acid washing like bricks do? Because the builder is less likely to munt the finish on your aluminium windows if that acid washing isn't needed (I sadly speak from experience). We'd probably have gone with Hebel and put up with the 10-yearly need to re-render (or at least paint), if the builder had been set-up to use Hebel. They offered it, but because it was a rare exception for them, it was considerably more expensive so we went with the low-maintenance face-brick instead. In a way I was glad, because rendered houses look very 1997 to me, and Sydney probably doesn't "need" the extra insulation (ie. it'd have made little difference to me). But … if the Hebel doesn't need acid washing, then in conditional hindsight I wish we'd paid the extra for the Hebel! I've gone for pre-fab walls. I did it because I wanted to remove the idiot factor from the construction on site , control theft and reduce waste its supposed to be… 12 32890 Hebel 75mm floor: The glue added will do nothing, will not miraculously stick panel together. Often the panels get cracks in them from handling and if a joist is… 3 12050 If the eaves are fixed first, the eaves line is about 250 mm below the top plate of wall frame. If the cladding ie hebel stops just under the eave line, then that means… 2 43262 |