res code

noviice · Dec 27, 2023 8:26 am

What it is, ow ya goin

thus far, cuz;

so first time buying land ova ere

this is where iz at

im at the stage where im forming a site investigation checklist and it will grow extranomically

ex uni student ovr hea - current carpenter.

My main concern at this very moment upon other things is res code requirments, specivally one or two clauses

ive got things like this covered

zoning, ease,ments, covenants, restrictoons, sol classification. serivice locations and availaiblity i.e ensure stormwater access - avoid need for pump system ect, contribution levies ect.

whats throwing me here is do i need a buyers advocate when it comes to choosing a land in terms of neighbouring properties sun path - i want to buy a block of land where i can build a decent foot print and even apply for special permissions to attain more then the 60% site coverage, cuz - i got no idea how to ascertain whether my building or not, not that its even desgined, is going to impede on certain things such as blocking a neighbours private open space of north sun or there sun path - would u say this is a hot topic when it comes to choosing a land as once i buy im stuck '

cheers

ponzutwo · Dec 28, 2023 2:09 pm

bit of advice, write like a human. Most people wont be bothered reading this after the first few lines. Mainly because you can't get over reading it in the tone it's written in, and it immediately feels like you're talking to a turnip.

You dont need a buyers advocate. Its a waste of money unless you're buying at the top end and you don't have time because you're on your yacht in the Mediterranean. Plus they will also no know this information.

The suns path and all that jazz is assessed by the builders and engineers putting together the plans for your property. Of you're wanting it to be a non issue, you should look at buying a block and having your plans and approvals sorted BEFORE the owners of the neighboring blocks. First in, best dressed. This is because no one can predict what the others will be building to model against. My first house, i was first in teh street. Basically could do w what we wanted. My next house was build between two established homes. There were some considerations that had to be made, but overal not significant enough to warrant a different house design.

Its also unlikely you will get special approvals for exceeding the maxiumum buildings envelope. Its there for good reason. You want a bigger house, buy bigger land.

Long story short - If you want less hassles, buy big land, build first.

noviice · Dec 28, 2023 2:28 pm

Cuz, why u gotta do me like that ey ye nah;

All good..

Moving on ey

I see maybe check yourself ey ye ey
Read a post n some cuzzy bought a. Lock n full f'd iimself cause ee had 2 neighbours 2 da back n couldn't go double story farr
Lucky I went uni ey n learnt a bit but that's why Ur ere ah

Cuz u lost it it's got nothing to do with builders assessing it the f*. It's going to be an owner builder project turnip and by that time I would have already bought the land where council apporves it da title is called site investigation not waste assessment
Best in best dress, my interpridation thus far is, look at site yeh, and understand how sun paths are configured because if I can't build my double story and turn it into a rooming house the way I want to why would I waste my time buying thr land ye ey na yeh look into that.

Fair point.

noviice · Dec 28, 2023 2:33 pm

Cuz, why u gotta do me like that ey ye nah;

All good..

Moving on ey

I see maybe check yourself ey ye ey
Read a post n some cuzzy bought a. Lock n full f'd iimself cause ee had 2 neighbours 2 da back n couldn't go double story farr
Lucky I went uni ey n learnt a bit but that's why Ur ere ah

Cuz u lost it it's got nothing to do with builders assessing it the f*. It's going to be an owner builder project turnip and by that time I would have already bought the land where council apporves it da title is called site investigation not waste assessment
Best in best dress, my interpridation thus far is, look at site yeh, and understand how sun paths are configured because if I can't build my double story and turn it into a rooming house the way I want to why would I waste my time buying thr land ye ey na yeh look into that.

Fair point.

ponzutwo · Dec 28, 2023 2:36 pm

I think i had a stroke reading that.

You didnt mention being an owner builder anywhere in your first post.

You will still need engineers and the like to design stuff and do the various assessments you're not qualified to. Being an owner builder doesnt mean you get to do ALL the things yourself, just that you're on the hook for it.

Have a chat with a buildign surveyor would be my suggestion. They'll point you in the right direction on what they would need. You'll need to work with one on your project in anycase.

ponzutwo · Dec 28, 2023 2:39 pm

oh and as to rooming houses, might want to check your councils thoughts on those too

noviice · Dec 28, 2023 3:11 pm

That's what I'm saying
What I need to do is, get a preliminary design going, in my head or atheist on paper, that way when I approach a peice of land I say yes, does this meet my needs,.is this neighbours clause 54 requirements going to grt in my way, I have the feeling thr footprint can be changed drastically by these measures, I'm not sure, if so it's a risk I need to know and not just go into it

Rooming house/share house
Atleast until 12 month point

ponzutwo · Dec 28, 2023 3:26 pm

noviice

That's what I'm saying
What I need to do is, get a preliminary design going, in my head or atheist on paper, that way when I approach a peice of land I say yes, does this meet my needs,.is this neighbours clause 54 requirements going to grt in my way, I have the feeling thr footprint can be changed drastically by these measures, I'm not sure, if so it's a risk I need to know and not just go into it

Rooming house/share house
Atleast until 12 month point

Yes, footprint may change drastically. You may or may not get away with a single design, but you won't get any real yes/no based on stuff in your head.

Get it drawn up. Go see a building surveyor. You may need to spend a little money to save a whole lot of money. Welcome to doing things yourself.

Rooming house and sharehouse are two very different things. One makes zero didifference the other could see you denied a permit faster than you can say "cuz".

noviice · Dec 28, 2023 4:52 pm

Cuz becomes rooming house the moment you have four or more tenants.

So far in the journey rescode is the first hurdle.

noviice · Dec 28, 2023 5:50 pm

But I know what you're sayen

ponzutwo · Dec 29, 2023 7:50 am

noviice

Cuz becomes rooming house the moment you have four or more tenants.

So far in the journey rescode is the first hurdle.

yes, but a share house could easily have +5 people living in the home under a single tenancy. Its all about the purpose of teh dwelling. So is it you and 4 mates or is it +4 randoms you're individully letting rooms to? How the house is constructed in terms of amenities, safety etc changes.

Rooming houses in the traditional sense, ie. where people down on their luck, or low income, are not desirable fixtures in quiet neighborhoods usually because statistically they bring unwanted interactions, drugs, crime etc into communities. So while you know what I'm saying, your first hurdle isn't rescode, its actually which of these types of residences are you actually trying to build?

A house for you and and a bunch of mates or a large islander/maori family (standard home) or a rooming house (where each resident is tenanted separately under a separate agreement) in the hopes of capitalizing on a higher rental return? If its the latter, your first research you should do is to understand if there are even any rooming houses in the area, how they operate, are they problematic in that community and what is council's appetite for another. THEN you can decide if its even worth while looking at a block of land in the area.

I recall there being a post on here not long ago where somone got approval tobuild a normal residence, but somewhere along the line they changes the direction to rooming house. The Surveyor got wind of it and wouldnt approve the final stage without extensive works to bring it back to a standard residence. cost to owner was extreme.

noviice · Dec 29, 2023 7:59 am

It's 4 separate tenants otherwise I would not concern myself 4 mates.
Law is the law if I have four separate trnant agreements it's a rooming house, I'm talking uni students, migrants ect.

I wanna build a big double story, rent it in da mean time, den well it, gotta be hebel cuz.

No mates cuz, I'm going for da profit. I'm also thinking a 2 bedda bnb in d's back or should I should enlarge house and gain extra backyard, cause for thoughts?

Yes rooming house can attract further requirements like each bedroom being fire separated ect.

ponzutwo · Dec 29, 2023 10:30 am

an air bnb at the back of a rooming house....

Seems you're on your way to learning some lessons, good luck, cuz.

noviice · Dec 29, 2023 10:50 am

I don't know what u mean🤙🏼

ponzutwo · Dec 29, 2023 10:53 am

noviice

I don't know what u mean🤙🏼

soon you will, grasshopper

noviice · Dec 29, 2023 10:59 am

Whats a grasshopper word

SaveH2O · Dec 29, 2023 2:36 pm

Master Po is all wise.

noviice · Dec 29, 2023 2:48 pm

I hear a lot of no hope energy and not enough talk

ponzutwo · Dec 29, 2023 2:58 pm

noviice

I hear a lot of no hope energy and not enough talk

Update us on your project as you progress

noviice · Dec 29, 2023 3:27 pm

There's a fee