We'd love to hear the pros and cons of project home builders Vs independent home builders
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Browse Forums Building A New House Re: Project builder Vs Independent builder 4Dec 06, 2019 8:23 am ![]() It really depends on the contractors they use. Building materials are very similar in price, if two builders use the exact same products, then the savings are generally in contractor costs. Youll find good and bad project builders, and good and bad custom builders They both use the same contractors if they can (We do both)but project builders pay us less per m2 with no extras, specify lower quality paint (Matt)with less coats,they use much cheaper windows,cheaper timber,two coat plaster system,cheaper bricks,no sarking,no ceiling battens,(screw plaster ceiling direct to roof trusses)cheaper kitchens,cheaper appliances, 600 centres and the list goes on. The private builder usually is the opposite,will accept changes,better kitchens,better 3 coat low sheen paint, three coat plaster, 450 centres, you get my drift. That's why there is sometimes a huge price difference. Re: Project builder Vs Independent builder 5Dec 06, 2019 9:03 am ![]() ![]() It really depends on the contractors they use. Building materials are very similar in price, if two builders use the exact same products, then the savings are generally in contractor costs. Youll find good and bad project builders, and good and bad custom builders They both use the same contractors if they can (We do both)but project builders pay us less per m2 with no extras, specify lower quality paint (Matt)with less coats,they use much cheaper windows,cheaper timber,two coat plaster system,cheaper bricks,no sarking,no ceiling battens,(screw plaster ceiling direct to roof trusses)cheaper kitchens,cheaper appliances, 600 centres and the list goes on. The private builder usually is the opposite,will accept changes,better kitchens,better 3 coat low sheen paint, three coat plaster, 450 centres, you get my drift. That's why there is sometimes a huge price difference. That's a very generalised response. If you're saying all volume builders use all that, then you're a mile away from the truth. Even if the builder you chose to go with does include those, that is all stuff you should have written in your contract to what you want. If you're also saying all private builders use the higher quality product, plus don't take shortcuts, that's also a larger generalised statement. It's why the threads asking "Private V volume" builders can't truly be answered. It all depends on what volume builder (And this changes from franchise to franchise) and what independent builder you use It also depends on what you have included in your contract. You aren't forced to sign a contract that has 600 frame spacing, or 2 coat matte paint systems, or cheap appliances, or sarking etc etc In my area, there's a local private builder who has just bought back 5 properties due to shortcuts taken at slab stage. Re: Project builder Vs Independent builder 6Dec 06, 2019 3:37 pm ![]() ![]() ![]() It really depends on the contractors they use. Building materials are very similar in price, if two builders use the exact same products, then the savings are generally in contractor costs. Youll find good and bad project builders, and good and bad custom builders They both use the same contractors if they can (We do both)but project builders pay us less per m2 with no extras, specify lower quality paint (Matt)with less coats,they use much cheaper windows,cheaper timber,two coat plaster system,cheaper bricks,no sarking,no ceiling battens,(screw plaster ceiling direct to roof trusses)cheaper kitchens,cheaper appliances, 600 centres and the list goes on. The private builder usually is the opposite,will accept changes,better kitchens,better 3 coat low sheen paint, three coat plaster, 450 centres, you get my drift. That's why there is sometimes a huge price difference. That's a very generalised response. If you're saying all volume builders use all that, then you're a mile away from the truth. Even if the builder you chose to go with does include those, that is all stuff you should have written in your contract to what you want. If you're also saying all private builders use the higher quality product, plus don't take shortcuts, that's also a larger generalised statement. It's why the threads asking "Private V volume" builders can't truly be answered. It all depends on what volume builder (And this changes from franchise to franchise) and what independent builder you use It also depends on what you have included in your contract. You aren't forced to sign a contract that has 600 frame spacing, or 2 coat matte paint systems, or cheap appliances, or sarking etc etc In my area, there's a local private builder who has just bought back 5 properties due to shortcuts taken at slab stage. You are correct, I'm not saying all project builders use all that but I've been working with project builders and private builders exclusively for 12 years straight and can speak for about 1000 houses we have been involved in. I can't speak for builders in other areas we don't work with. You say that a local private builder has 5 properties that they had to purchase back to satisfy customers, the difference is with a project builder, the original owners would still own the houses and the private builder has taken responsibility. Hope I have explained it enough Re: Project builder Vs Independent builder 7Jan 02, 2020 8:10 pm Thanks for your input guys ![]() We've actually decided to go with a project home builder, purely for a cheaper build, and have upgraded things like the kitchen, bathrooms, paint, etc. BUILDING OUR FIRST HOME :x] Building Standards; Getting It Right! 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