Browse Forums Building A New House Re: Prewiring a House for Data, CCTV, and Future-Proofing 12Jul 10, 2023 12:51 pm strannik stonesthrow For a modest sized house, what do you need data points for other than gaming? it's best to do a data point anywhere where you may have a network device that isn't going to move. like TVs, desktop PCs (or any PCs in the office), wifi repeaters, NAS devices etc. leave wifi to things that cannot connect in any other way. Do TV's and computers really need a data cable if your house isn't huge and wifi coverage okay? Re: Prewiring a House for Data, CCTV, and Future-Proofing 13Jul 10, 2023 2:21 pm stonesthrow strannik it's best to do a data point anywhere where you may have a network device that isn't going to move. like TVs, desktop PCs (or any PCs in the office), wifi repeaters, NAS devices etc. leave wifi to things that cannot connect in any other way. Do TV's and computers really need a data cable if your house isn't huge and wifi coverage okay? i don't know what's 'huge' and 'okay wifi coverage' but in my experience they benefit from a fixed connection, and it also means you have less wifi contention with other devices. Re: Prewiring a House for Data, CCTV, and Future-Proofing 14Jul 11, 2023 12:24 pm i live in a 40SQ double storey home, wifi coverage is not an issue anywhere in the household. Buy a good gaming router with a dual compatibility of 2.4gh/5ghz and you wont have an issue. Split up your devices are needed for 2.4ghz and 5ghz and you wont have a problem. i have several (sh*t load of wireless devices). Never had an issue with interference whatsoever. Smart devices will find the best route to get data across to where its needed. this is coming from someone that made provisions for network terminations throughout the house. never ever needed to use cables. Re: Prewiring a House for Data, CCTV, and Future-Proofing 15Jul 11, 2023 12:48 pm I would say even more, with Wi-Fi 6 you get speeds up to 9.6 Gbits/s, it is almost 10 times faster than the best LAN (which gets you 1 Gbit at best, while most of the home networking devices still work over 100 times! slower 100 Mbit LAN). In this context, your main bottleneck will be always your NBN connection. PS. And Wi-Fi 7 with speeds up to 40 Gbit/s is already on its way. Re: Prewiring a House for Data, CCTV, and Future-Proofing 16Jul 11, 2023 4:04 pm When it comes to data points, it makes sense to have every single stationary device connected. That being said, with the money builders charging for something that simple (could be up to $200 per point) you obviously want something to suit your budget. Where to put data points in the order of priority: 1. WAP points in ceilings. Even if you want to rely on Wi-Fi for everything else, you still need to position access points correctly to avoid interference. 2. Data points for CCTVs. There is absolutely no need to keep them on Wi-Fi if you can have them running via Ethernet. Plus they are powered via PoE. 3. Data points for office, media, etc. 4. Data point for a doorbell, solar inverter and power meter Re: Prewiring a House for Data, CCTV, and Future-Proofing 17Jul 11, 2023 4:58 pm kvazer 2. Data points for CCTVs. There is absolutely no need to keep them on Wi-Fi if you can have them running via Ethernet. Plus they are powered via PoE. except that wiring up such a system can easily add a grand to a wireless set up (if you're expecting your builder to do it). Its not like the wireless cameras are eating up bandwidth or batteries anyway. They activate on motion and barely use either resource enough to worry about it. The only conversation that remains is that of cost and how much of a headache one is over the other. Another point for wireless is that you also have the benefit of testing the positioning before you comit to the installation position. Wireless is winning teh race on most things. just embrace it. Re: Prewiring a House for Data, CCTV, and Future-Proofing 18Jul 11, 2023 5:11 pm ponzutwo kvazer 2. Data points for CCTVs. There is absolutely no need to keep them on Wi-Fi if you can have them running via Ethernet. Plus they are powered via PoE. Its not like the wireless cameras are eating up bandwidth or batteries anyway. It depends on the use case. If you hook up your cameras to NVR, then yes, they will always consume bandwidth. I am not sure if you even can do that with wireless cameras to be honest. I would not go that far and say that wireless is winning. It depends on a person and their tolerance to potential issues. Ethernet is definitely better but if it is worth the cost depends on personal preferences. Re: Prewiring a House for Data, CCTV, and Future-Proofing 19Jul 11, 2023 6:45 pm alexp79 I would say even more, with Wi-Fi 6 you get speeds up to 9.6 Gbits/s, it is almost 10 times faster than the best LAN (which gets you 1 Gbit at best, while most of the home networking devices still work over 100 times! slower 100 Mbit LAN). In this context, your main bottleneck will be always your NBN connection. PS. And Wi-Fi 7 with speeds up to 40 Gbit/s is already on its way. that's not true. NBN may not even be in play when you transfer large volumes of data between a PC and a NAS for example. or have multiple people trying to stream different things from NAS. modern PCs/routers come with 2.5Gb LAN ports nowadays. i think it's only TVs that are lagging behind on 100Mbit, but until you get into 8k streaming you're probably ok with 100. also those WiFi speeds of 9.6Gbit/s number you're quoting would be total combined bandwidth across all channels. which is shared by all devices. also in ideal conditions at a particular distance from the router. totally different ball game when you're at the other end of the house from the router. of course one could get into mesh networks to fix those problems, but mesh repeaters would also benefit from a fixed cable connection if you don't want to have lots of them. Re: Prewiring a House for Data, CCTV, and Future-Proofing 20Jul 11, 2023 7:39 pm Well, if TV just needs 100 Mbit, then 9.5 Gbit/s can easily handle a dozen of TVs simultaneously. How many do you need for your NAS? Netflix streams 4K/UltraHD at only 15 Mbps, by the way. And yes, mesh network is an absolute must for big house. It worked for me in getting all non notified rain days removed from the builders claim, although the LDs was only $50/day 7 9076 Thanks all for your help I had an inspector who looked at over wall fall and full bathroom waterproofing, he said this will not be an issue as there is drain outside of… 4 4074 3 2243 |