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Cabinetry not build to plans on architect build
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sunny74
12 January 2021
Re: Cabinetry not build to plans on architect build
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Jan 12, 2021 6:37 am
Don’t say anything that can be used against you, only say what needs to be said etc
Don’t say anything that can be used against you, only say what needs to be said etc
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sunny74
11 January 2021
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Jan 11, 2021 8:58 pm
Did you have to engage the lawyers? No had one meeting and decided I could do it myself If so, how much did they cost, and did you have to hire a specialist of some sort? No if you have the time and careful with your words should be able to do it yourself. During the build, did you have a building i...
Did you have to engage the lawyers? No had one meeting and decided I could do it myself If so, how much did they cost, a...
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sunny74
11 January 2021
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Jan 11, 2021 8:26 pm
I had a 10 month battle with the architects indemnity insurer. They made a few low ball offers that I refused. They then tried to get the cabinet maker and builder to pitch in but they refused so I took a settlement from the architects lawyer. I didn’t feel the builder was really at fault although t...
I had a 10 month battle with the architects indemnity insurer. They made a few low ball offers that I refused. They then...
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sunny74
26 November 2019
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Nov 26, 2019 4:11 pm
Hi sunny It's good that you've had some movement on your issue. Can I ask who it was that ended up getting the insurers in? Was it the architect or builder? Are they going to rectify or just pay you out? It was a royal stuff up, so interested to see who wore the blame in the end. Architects solicit...
Architects solicitor, atm have got a quote from cabinet maker with price they gave to solicitor who forwarded to us. Wa...
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sunny74
26 November 2019
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Nov 26, 2019 3:46 pm
Thanks Supersleuth They got their insurer in who then got a solicitor in and looks like all sorted, we were offered a settlement, thanks though not a bad idea
Thanks Supersleuth They got their insurer in who then got a solicitor in and looks like all sorted, we were offered a se...
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12 November 2019
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Nov 12, 2019 7:59 pm
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12 November 2019
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Nov 12, 2019 10:46 am
Have I missed any? Live with it. They were paid to manage, they needed to own this problem, i’m going to have to teach them a lesson I think and this problem will own them. They have insurance, the only solution they have after acknowledging it was a mistake was at my cost They already blew my budg...
Live with it. They were paid to manage, they needed to own this problem, i’m going to have to teach them a lesson I thi...
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sunny74
11 November 2019
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Nov 11, 2019 1:51 pm
Hi Sunny The only thing I don't understand about that is that the carpenters that framed up the house would have used the floor plan for all dimensions. I'm assuming that they built the walls of the pantry and not the cabinet maker. So technically all the walls should have been built in the correct...
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sunny74
11 November 2019
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Nov 11, 2019 11:18 am
It all comes back to the walls of the butler's pantry. They are built in the wrong place and it's all flowed from there. Ok I’ve done some more work and got plans off the council. The wall in the pantry has been correctly built to the floor plan but not to the architects kitchen detail plan. I'm a ...
It seems the architects kitchen detail plan not lining up with her floor plan is the issue , but yes there is no variat...
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sunny74
8 November 2019
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Nov 08, 2019 12:58 pm
And, it's an extremely expensive mistake or deviation so I would expect whoever is responsible will fight it tooth and nail to not have to rectify it or will just offer a cash settlement. To build it to the plans now, involves structural, plaster, flooring, paint and all new cabinetry. $$$$$ Thanks...
Thanks so much Chippy, just want what we were shown and paid for as the end product ie don’t want to do anyone over. Gu...
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8 November 2019
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Nov 08, 2019 11:59 am
It all comes back to the walls of the butler's pantry. They are built in the wrong place and it's all flowed from there. I'm a carpenter who also has a cabinet making workshop. If I'm building cabinetry for a builder I'd initially quote on the supplied plans. When it comes time to actually build th...
Yep thanks so much. We are going back to the builder now to ask his side. The architect said “ On the floor plan the ki...
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8 November 2019
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Nov 08, 2019 11:48 am
It all comes back to the walls of the butler's pantry. They are built in the wrong place and it's all flowed from there. I'm a carpenter who also has a cabinet making workshop. If I'm building cabinetry for a builder I'd initially quote on the supplied plans. When it comes time to actually build th...
Yep thanks so much. We are going back to the builder now to ask his side. The architect said “ On the floor plan the ki...
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sunny74
8 November 2019
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Nov 08, 2019 11:03 am
The problem is the cupboards don’t line up down the hall. The cupboards don’t have the depth we asked for. The island bench is not as wide as we wanted or paid for. The kitchen job working space is I assume 300mm small aswell , that whole back of the kitchen anyways etc etc I get that, but I'm expl...
I get that, but I'm explaining why. If you work out why the pantry is 300mm shorter, then you can figure out who is res...
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8 November 2019
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Nov 08, 2019 10:35 am
If I put a measuring tape in the hallway cupboard off the pantry it’s about 560mm deep plus the door about 20mm 640mm must apply to the oven tower then, and the cupboard down the hallway just conform because of the wall behind them. In any case, the cause of the problem you are concerned about is t...
640mm must apply to the oven tower then, and the cupboard down the hallway just conform because of the wall behind them...
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8 November 2019
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Nov 08, 2019 10:34 am
If I put a measuring tape in the hallway cupboard off the pantry it’s about 560mm deep plus the door about 20mm 640mm must apply to the oven tower then, and the cupboard down the hallway just conform because of the wall behind them. In any case, the cause of the problem you are concerned about is t...
640mm must apply to the oven tower then, and the cupboard down the hallway just conform because of the wall behind them...
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8 November 2019
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Nov 08, 2019 10:28 am
The cupboards in the hallway were meant to be approx 300 mm deeper and that would put them in line with cupboards on other side of that nib ( we wanted very deep storage cupboards here). Unfortunately, that desire is not reflected in either of the drawings. The architect drawings show them as 640mm...
Unfortunately, that desire is not reflected in either of the drawings. The architect drawings show them as 640mm deep. ...
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8 November 2019
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Nov 08, 2019 9:54 am
Thanks for putting up the plans. It makes it far easier to understand what has gone on. My next question is, who built the wall that the cabinetry sits against? I assume it's a butler's pantry with the cavity slider in it? Correct, the builder built those walls. It would appear that it has been bui...
Yes, wouldn’t this change have to be put in writing somewhere and then be seen as variation, any idea who’s job it woul...
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8 November 2019
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Nov 08, 2019 9:42 am
This is the problem I don’t know who to target most. Legal advice is we sue the architect for failing duties and then sue the builder as well who in turn sure the cabinet maker. https://forum.homeone.com.au/u/80429_1573164499.jpeg https://forum.homeone.com.au/u/80429_1573164511.jpeg Picture is wort...
Picture is worth a thousand words. 3600 is what we had contracted builder for, 3600 is what architect sent plans to oth...
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8 November 2019
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Nov 08, 2019 8:28 am
It seems your legal advice is correct but before commencing proceedings I would get in touch with architect's professional indemnity insurer and make a claim directly. It is likely they will want to avoid legal costs just the same as you and you might get an offer of settlement. Cheers Great idea, ...
Great idea, many thanks.
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8 November 2019
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Nov 08, 2019 8:18 am
Hi @Sunny74 What you have described is an unknown common problem in the industry Where the Architect provides preliminary drawing/Details and the builder redraws the plans to suit them and they form part of the contract Your "Duty of care" case is against the architect Goodluck as you won...
Yes I think you’re right, from what I’ve read the Board or architect qld BOAQ is just a front and a waste of time compl...
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