Browse Forums Flooring & Floor Covering 1 May 16, 2009 1:56 pm Re: Foam or Rubber Underlay? 2May 17, 2009 6:02 pm Internal and External Building and Colour Consultant Online - Worldwide http://www.denovoconcepts.com Re: Foam or Rubber Underlay? 3May 17, 2009 6:04 pm Internal and External Building and Colour Consultant Online - Worldwide http://www.denovoconcepts.com Re: Foam or Rubber Underlay? 13Jun 15, 2009 5:12 pm Well maybe I got a bit too interested in this thread - since my new carpet is probably another 6 months away - but I actually had a chat with John Roberts (a Bridgestone regional manager from Melbourne) about Airstep Prime today Sure, maybe he's not the most subjective person to be talking to but he did confirm for me that Prime is actually a burnt orange colour ("terracotta?" I asked and he said "yeah"). He said he actually had Supa Blue in his home (price was right i.e. it was free) but if he had to pay for it he said he'd used Prime. He recommended the Wool Set group for Vic & Tas customers (branches everywhere) and they actually use the legit product rather than trying to pass off something else as being Prime. Just an FYI for anyone interested Re: Foam or Rubber Underlay? 14Jun 15, 2009 6:59 pm Hi guys, I know now the type of underlay you mean, prime is actually a commercial grade underlay. What was confusing me was your description. I do a lot of commercial installations where we have to duel bond the carpet. Duel bond is gluing underlay to the slab, and than gluing carpet to the underlay. The underlay recommended for this is called airstep slab. It is slab rubber, terracotta in colour. Hence i was wondering why you kept recommending prime, which i thought was airstep slab!! Hope i made sense there. Anyway i found this http://www.airstep.com.au/lib/images/pr ... _specs.pdf Thought you might like to have a look. When recommending prime, i think people should note, it is designed for a commercial application. Although superior to platinum and supablue, it has a much lower profile so end result could be not as spongy or thick as people would have expected. Also note im pretty sure airstep garrantees the life of their rubbers to last the life of your chosen carpet. Re: Foam or Rubber Underlay? 15Jun 15, 2009 8:54 pm neorayez When recommending prime, i think people should note, it is designed for a commercial application. Although superior to platinum and supablue, it has a much lower profile so end result could be not as spongy or thick as people would have expected. Also note im pretty sure airstep garrantees the life of their rubbers to last the life of your chosen carpet. G'day N. Yeah it can be confusing with so many products being similar, and names don't necessarily indicate the products grade plainly! I don't care if Prime is considered 'commercial'. It is a far better product than the thicker, spongey underlays. The 'trampolining' effect of those underlays presents a lot of extra stresses on the carpets. Also, thicker underlays allow too much compression beneath heavy furniture, resulting in pile distortion. Yeah the supplers of all these underlays do 'guaratee' their underlays for the life of the carpet. This means diddlysquat! The reality is, many don't go the distance, and consumers don't even know in many cases. The guaratee is only for replacement of the underlay, and DOES NOT COVER costs to move furniture, lift carpet, replace underlay and refit carpet etc. So virtually nobody ever makes a claim against the so called 'guaratee'! Its a 'Clayton's guarantee! I have seen many cases of carpets with plenty of life in them on underlay that is dead! Ash. Re: Foam or Rubber Underlay? 16Jun 16, 2009 4:54 pm neorayez When recommending prime, i think people should note, it is designed for a commercial application. Although superior to platinum and supablue, it has a much lower profile so end result could be not as spongy or thick as people would have expected. Also note im pretty sure airstep garrantees the life of their rubbers to last the life of your chosen carpet. This is exactly what the regional manager said in conversation with me about Prime, too. Nonetheless I am highly confident that, regardless, my new carpet (probably wool) and Prime underlay will be many, MANY times better than the builders stock standard rubbish I have at present Re: Foam or Rubber Underlay? 17Jun 16, 2009 5:19 pm I have carpets in two bedrooms at my home. A Cavalier Bremworth wool tweed in the main bedroom, and a Feltex axminster in my son's room, both laid about 11 years ago. The layers put in Bridgestone Black rubber underlay (I wasn't so astute at the time, and that's what he had). In both cases, the underlay has collapsed in the traffic ways, over the last couple of years. The carpets look absolutely fine, and will easily last another 15-20 years. When I have time, I will remove the underlay, and whack some Prime in. Now if I had all the documentation, and proof of purchase etc, yeah I could claim against the guarantee, but it won't happen. They would only replace it with the same type anyway. The term 'commercial' (relating to carpet underlay) means "it actually goes the distance" compared to other underlays that often do not, despite the Claytons guarantee. Ash. Re: Foam or Rubber Underlay? 18Nov 17, 2022 2:12 pm JellyLegs We've just been given a great price for some wool carpet - loop pile I think is what he called it. The guy recommended 11mm foam underlay and said they don't recommend rubber because it tends to flatten out over time. Previously I was told rubber is better and foam deteriorates Any thoughts? Well ive just purchased a wool carpet as well. My Carpet layer has thirty years experience and as soon as he stepped on my existing carpet he said its fine to use the existing Rubber underlay which is Blue in colour .I purchased the underlay my self 10 years ago and it came with a (guarantee of 2 carpet life's) which my carpet layer confirmed . I pulled out my existing carpet this morning and guess what ,it was as good as new . Rubber is the best . Like ⋅ Add a comment ⋅ Pin to Ideaboard ⋅ Hi there, looking to have a gym in a new build. Planning to install some sort of rubber mat flooring (on concrete) i.e. Asking the builder to not do floorboards in the gym… 0 2953 Oh no! I would use a can of expandable foam ( there are some that will take render) then cut it back and render over the top 1 5006 There is nothing in the various codes and standards that puts this requirement on the builder to do. I think that is what you are asking. Don't waste time trying to get… 5 3055 |