Browse Forums Building A New House Re: Site Costs 2Mar 24, 2017 9:08 am Designer,Engineer (Civil,Const & Envir),Builder,Concrete & Masonry Contract.Struct Repairs Re: Site Costs 7Mar 24, 2017 11:42 am Kidlat bank It's likely because your soil isn't M class. Depends on where you are located, Victoria is typically H1 or H2. If the builder is willing to quote a fixed price they've either done soil tests or know enough about the area to do so without soil tests. I see.. One builder is quoting fixed site costs, another is quoting provisional site costs up to H2 class, both $15k.. I guess with the provisional, I can get credits if the soil test comes back as M class, right? This is in Manor Lakes VIC by the way. That is right, but it's unlikely that it will be M. Talk to people in your area and see what their soil is and what they are paying. The builder will usually make sure they come out in front with fixed but with that said 15k fixed sounds pretty good to me. I'm in Geelong we had a provisional of 14k which I was mentally thinking would go up, I was hoping for under 20k, ended up with screw piles and 31k. Re: Site Costs 8Mar 24, 2017 11:48 am MrCJ Hi Kidlat, All house prices you see advertised are for the house only and do not include things like site works, OH&S, etc. For example, we're building the Carlisle Homes - Radison 35 which is $290k however on top of that is $30k is site costs and $22k in OH&S. Add to that a garage extension, butlers pantry, refridgerated A/C and a few other changes here and there, we're not at $390k for the "house" build. Note that excludes adriveway, new cross over, correction of old cross over, letterbox, power pit, fences, gates, etc. so my real cost for the house is closer to the $460k on top of the cost to buy the property and demo the existing house. Who/ what are you building with and where? Cheers, Chris. It's in Manor Lakes VIC.. Deciding between Henley and JG King, both have site inclusions of upto M class waffle pod slab. I guess the $15k quote is if the soil is classed higher, H1 or H2.. So I just hope test comes back as M. Re: Site Costs 9Mar 24, 2017 11:53 am bank Kidlat bank It's likely because your soil isn't M class. Depends on where you are located, Victoria is typically H1 or H2. If the builder is willing to quote a fixed price they've either done soil tests or know enough about the area to do so without soil tests. I see.. One builder is quoting fixed site costs, another is quoting provisional site costs up to H2 class, both $15k.. I guess with the provisional, I can get credits if the soil test comes back as M class, right? This is in Manor Lakes VIC by the way. That is right, but it's unlikely that it will be M. Talk to people in your area and see what their soil is and what they are paying. The builder will usually make sure they come out in front with fixed but with that said 15k fixed sounds pretty good to me. I'm in Geelong we had a provisional of 14k which I was mentally thinking would go up, I was hoping for under 20k, ended up with screw piles and 31k. Wow.. doubled up the original provisional cost. Did you have the option to fix the costs at the beginning? Site Costs 10Mar 24, 2017 5:42 pm If you are building in the North or West of Melbourne chances are your soil will be H2 or H1 at best. If there are rocks in your area or your block has fill or easements(you should be able to find this out from your developer) this will push your site costs up. I am building in Melbourne's north, Carlilse quoted 15,000 fixed, Fairhaven and PD were $18,000 and Henley was $7,000. My block has less than 300mm of fall, no fill, H2 soil, and no easements. Henley have built a lot of properties in my estate. The danger is if you don't fix and they hit rocks or lots of fill you will have to pay a lot more. Re: Site Costs 11Mar 24, 2017 9:36 pm Kidlat Wow.. doubled up the original provisional cost. Did you have the option to fix the costs at the beginning? No option for fixed cost, new estate, lots of controlled fill, they wouldn't even consider it. We made peace with what we paid in the end, we feel we got a lot for our money compared to many in our estate. Re: Site Costs 12Mar 26, 2017 5:05 pm cant decide If you are building in the North or West of Melbourne chances are your soil will be H2 or H1 at best. If there are rocks in your area or your block has fill or easements(you should be able to find this out from your developer) this will push your site costs up. I am building in Melbourne's north, Carlilse quoted 15,000 fixed, Fairhaven and PD were $18,000 and Henley was $7,000. My block has less than 300mm of fall, no fill, H2 soil, and no easements. Henley have built a lot of properties in my estate. The danger is if you don't fix and they hit rocks or lots of fill you will have to pay a lot more. Only $7000 for a H2 soil - I would say that was a good price. My lot has 2m easement from the back boundary, but it has 34m in length, so I don't think the easement will greatly affect the site preparation for a double storey house. And based on my conversation with the developer, the tests generally came out as H class but nothing extreme. I guess I just have to make peace on $15k site costs - it is what it is. Re: Site Costs 13Mar 26, 2017 7:19 pm Good luck. Our soil test and back P class, problem. We are in Chelsea, think there is fill and they have to go down 1.6 metres for stumps, only 1 metre allowed for in proposal so have to wait for engineering report to find out additional costs, not sure what site costs are included in the proposal price. Just hope it doesn't exceed our budget! Re: Site Costs 14Mar 27, 2017 9:10 am Ezza78 Good luck. Our soil test and back P class, problem. We are in Chelsea, think there is fill and they have to go down 1.6 metres for stumps, only 1 metre allowed for in proposal so have to wait for engineering report to find out additional costs, not sure what site costs are included in the proposal price. Just hope it doesn't exceed our budget! P class - that's unfortunate. Is it on the beach side of the Nepean highway? I'm renting in Bonbeach, but moving to West as we want to have a new build house. Just couldn't afford a KDR in this area. Re: Site Costs 16Mar 27, 2017 11:37 am Ezza78 No not beach side, we are about 2kms from the beach. Trying not to get worried as I don't really understand what it all means but my gut feeling is it doesn't sound good. Sigh Are you doing a Knock-Down-Rebuild (KDR) or building on a vacant lot? Well, I really hope it doesn't exceed your budget! Re: Site Costs 20Apr 03, 2017 4:23 pm Yes all fixed, except for the BAL I think, as explained by SC if by building start the BAL requirement is lifted they will credit it back.. Will still build, just need to manage $$ and put all of them together under our budget. Compromise. I am not sure whether Perth has its own way of doing things in regards to this. Most of Perth has class A (sandy soil), except for some areas near rivers or hills. 2 13091 Is anyone building with Mojo and have a recent site cost tender 0 15951 Henley should give you some indication of site costs. Too many variable to give you any reasonable accuracy 1 1879 |