Browse Forums General Discussion 1 Apr 03, 2015 1:12 pm HI We are building in a new estate that only allows timber fencing and our house will be the last up so im assuming we will get the ugly side of the fence the frame side on all 3 sides. What im wondering is do we still have to pay half and is it just bad lack the neighbours sorted the fence out before us. I just feel getting the ugly looking side I would not be comfotable paying half. What happens in this situation? Building the Sheffield 25 + 2 sq Re: Timber Fencing Double lapped and capped Problem 2Apr 03, 2015 1:56 pm There is no ugly side in a legal sense. Each owner pays half irrespective of what they get. Dont be so negative, the frame side is not ugly at all, and you have the advantage of better security by people on the other sides not being able to use the rails to scale the fence into your yard. For that reason alone, I would always want the frame side facing me. Re: Timber Fencing Double lapped and capped Problem 3Apr 03, 2015 2:07 pm Oh please if someone wants to scale your fence they will find a way to do it. Im sorry but the dressed side looks much nicer im sure most people would agree.... Building the Sheffield 25 + 2 sq Re: Timber Fencing Double lapped and capped Problem 4Apr 03, 2015 2:49 pm My understanding is if the fence is built by the neighbours when they move in and they pay the cost - they are unable to claim the costs from you after the fact. Obviously you would have no say it what side you got in that case but you also haven't paid for it so i wouldn't complain. Re: Timber Fencing Double lapped and capped Problem 5Apr 03, 2015 5:00 pm milby My understanding is if the fence is built by the neighbours when they move in and they pay the cost - they are unable to claim the costs from you after the fact. Obviously you would have no say it what side you got in that case but you also haven't paid for it so i wouldn't complain. Can anyone confirm if milby is correct I don;t think it is I have heard the other party passes on the cost no way to get out of it as its a shared boundary. The advantage of doing it without the other neighbours consent obviosuly has the advantag of being able to choose the better looking side. Building the Sheffield 25 + 2 sq Re: Timber Fencing Double lapped and capped Problem 7Apr 03, 2015 5:56 pm If it's a new estate then I would imagine they will be requesting "Neighbour Friendly" Fence. Cheers, Paul (& Lisa) Parkhill 36 by ClarendonHomes in Coomera Retreat H1 Build Thread And Blog Building Blogs List - Go Ahead And Add Yours!! Re: Timber Fencing Double lapped and capped Problem 8Apr 03, 2015 6:03 pm milby Sheffieldhunter - do you own the land? Have you commenced construction? HI We own our block of land and have not commenced construction. The next door neighbours have commenced construction and the house behind us has commenced constructions. We are probably lagging 2-4 months behind them. Building the Sheffield 25 + 2 sq Re: Timber Fencing Double lapped and capped Problem 9Apr 03, 2015 6:17 pm Ok. If you already own the block, you haven't met the neighbours but they are still building - then what should happen is that they will serve a fencing notice to you via council (as in its forwarded by the council because they have your details). You can then contact your neighbours and discuss the fencing. (It would be the scenario i mentioned previously if you didn't yet own the block and they wanted to fence - they aren't required to serve notice because there is no owner. OR equally if they just go ahead and fence without bothering to serve a fence notice then they are unable to recoup costs because you haven't been party to negotiations and costings etc). A 'good neighbour' fence would solve the problem but depends if that meets your estate requirements. Re: Timber Fencing Double lapped and capped Problem 10Apr 03, 2015 6:23 pm milby Ok. If you already own the block, you haven't met the neighbours but they are still building - then what should happen is that they will serve a fencing notice to you via council (as in its forwarded by the council because they have your details). You can then contact your neighbours and discuss the fencing. (It would be the scenario i mentioned previously if you didn't yet own the block and they wanted to fence - they aren't required to serve notice because there is no owner. OR equally if they just go ahead and fence without bothering to serve a fence notice then they are unable to recoup costs because you haven't been party to negotiations and costings etc). A 'good neighbour' fence would solve the problem but depends if that meets your estate requirements. I understand all that but im assuming he neighbour will coose the better side and leave me with the dud looking side which doesnt sound fair. Im assuming this happens to alot of people as in the estate I had a good look today. Is this something im just going to have to wear or how do you discuss it rock paper scissors best out of 3 loser gets the dud side? Building the Sheffield 25 + 2 sq Re: Timber Fencing Double lapped and capped Problem 11Apr 03, 2015 6:32 pm Not sure of how it works. Assume a bit of neighbourly agreement is what is required. You could always get ahead of the jump and serve the fencing notice for the side you really want the non dud one on! Im happy to concede one side of mine to being the frame as its the dead side of the house, the rear I'll pay for as its vacant undeveloped land and I'll bear the whole cost of the fence on the side i don't want to see the frame if i have to - that should win my neighbour over π Re: Timber Fencing Double lapped and capped Problem 12Apr 03, 2015 6:35 pm milby Not sure of how it works. Assume a bit of neighbourly agreement is what is required. You could always get ahead of the jump and serve the fencing notice for the side you really want the non dud one on! Im happy to concede one side of mine to being the frame as its the dead side of the house, the rear I'll pay for as its vacant undeveloped land and I'll bear the whole cost of the fence on the side i don't want to see the frame if i have to - that should win my neighbour over π Wish you were my neighbour I might see how I go im thinking the house being built next to us is an investment property so maybe they wont care I dont know. Building the Sheffield 25 + 2 sq Re: Timber Fencing Double lapped and capped Problem 13Apr 03, 2015 6:59 pm Roomeat If it's a new estate then I would imagine they will be requesting "Neighbour Friendly" Fence. Cheers, Paul (& Lisa) Parkhill 36 by ClarendonHomes in Coomera Retreat H1 Build Thread And Blog Building Blogs List - Go Ahead And Add Yours!! Re: Timber Fencing Double lapped and capped Problem 14Apr 03, 2015 7:01 pm sheffieldhunter Wish you were my neighbour. Unless we both wanted the face on the same side though hey There's always screening or painting if you get the "dud" side though. Hang a vertical herb garden from the cross bar, plant a hedge, do a merbau slat wall etc if it's an area of the fence you have to look at alot and it bothers you. Re: Timber Fencing Double lapped and capped Problem 16Apr 04, 2015 6:42 pm Wow, surprised anybody cares which side of the fence they get.
I would prefer the rail side, so nobody's animals can scale the fence into my yard, and it can be useful for doing planting. I'm sure you can negotiate the fence with the neighbour even if you haven't built yet, you might find they don't care which side they get. I sure wouldn't..and if it meant keeping my neighbour from being grumpy and painful to deal with in the future I'd just be like "sure whatever, have the flat side". Re: Timber Fencing Double lapped and capped Problem 17Apr 04, 2015 9:11 pm You could just ask them. I replaced a boundary fence but am not seeking compensation from the neighbour as it would cause too much hassle. Via Tapatalk. viewtopic.php?t=72683 Re: Timber Fencing Double lapped and capped Problem 18Apr 10, 2015 3:04 pm I always thought that the fences all had to follow the lead of the 'first' house in the street/line, regardless of whether the 'first' house is already built or not. For example, the block at the top (or end) of the street would have to have the rails on their side so that the 'outer/flat' side of the fence, which is seen by the public, doesn't have the rails. This would then flow on up the street, so if going left to right up the street, the first house will have rails on the left side fence but no rails on the right side fence, as the next neighbour to the right of them will then have the rails on their left, but none on the right..... If you get me. Not sure if this is actually true but I thought that this was how it worked and it seems to make sense to me. I have no idea about the back fence, though. TBH I don't think I am going to care what side the rails are on. Our back fence has been done by the estate, as we back onto an existing area, and we don't have the rails along the back. I plan on painting all our fences a dark grey for contrast against the plants. The rail side will be harder to paint, but that's all. As someone else has said, the rails side can be handy if you want to run creepers or something like that up the fence. Maybe talk to a fencing company to see if there are any 'rules' - they would be more in the know than anyone. My blog: tashandpaul.wordpress.com Hi all, Our boundary perimeter fences need replacing (3 sides). From everyone's experience, what would you install? Timber lapped and capped OR colorbond? Thank you. 0 2875 Building Standards; Getting It Right! Long story short, a toilet room is going to back onto our main bedroom and I want to make it close to soundproof. Im going to build two frames (pretty much a room within a… 0 10213 Engineering timber is certainly a less fuss option, times cheaper to supply and install and better withstands humidity. 1 15904 |