Browse Forums Owner Builder Forum Re: builder owner vs professional builder 21Jul 21, 2014 4:12 pm People make one happy, not houses? I do not think so. Houses are more to be trusted than people. Elizabeth Aston, Mr. Darcy's Daughters http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pmDX0tgONFs http://lightndreamy.blogspot.com/ Re: builder owner vs professional builder 30Aug 01, 2014 7:44 pm Owner Building at Jimboomba Woods in Logan City Qld. Blog : http://bandlnewhomebuild.blogspot.com H1 thread : viewtopic.php?f=38&t=68283 . Re: builder owner vs professional builder 32Aug 02, 2014 9:34 am Owner Building at Jimboomba Woods in Logan City Qld. Blog : http://bandlnewhomebuild.blogspot.com H1 thread : viewtopic.php?f=38&t=68283 . Re: builder owner vs professional builder 34Aug 02, 2014 2:48 pm We are doing owner builder in Melbourne. It is saving us probably $100K. But of course it takes a lot longer because we can only do it after work and on the weekends. But gee we are enjoying it. We even dug all the 1m stump holes by hand in the hot summer sun. You need to be very dedicated though. But if you have the skills it is a great way to save money. My renovation blog: http://landhousereno.blogspot.com.au/ Or like me on facebook: The little yellow house About to extend our Edwardian House in West Footscray, Melbourne D & N and 3 kids. Re: builder owner vs professional builder 35Aug 02, 2014 6:37 pm Stewie D My comments were made partly in reference to the post by RedHotMike... Quote: RedHotMike wrote: TBH I'm amazed that DIY home building is still permitted. and also that most of the homes I'd seen done by OB's were pre-certifiers in NSW. I'd imagine now that as you say with certifiers having to pass these jobs and with their licence on the line the standards have been raised somewhat. Stewie I will admit that my experience is entirely within Victoria. Part of the problem here is that other than Electrical and Plumbing, none of the other trades have to be licensed however as a owner builder/DB-M you are required to have a registered carpenter/concreter/bricklayer etc. I'm not sure how OB's or DB-M's get around this as registered trades (other than electrician/plumbers) are few and far apart down here as they are not required by DB-U builders. Things are different in other states and I'm sure the situation would be better if all trades needed to be registered as they are in (say) QLD. Re: builder owner vs professional builder 36Aug 03, 2014 8:49 am Similar to NSW RHM but slightly different. Apart from plumbing and electrical an OB here can do all the other work, however if he employs anyone else they have to be licensed by the Dept of Fair Trading. If their contract exceeds $20,000 for the work they do for the OB then they also have to take out Home Owners Warranty Insurance. They also should provide the OB with the relevant certificates at the end of their work. Where this falls down of course is where the OB does some of the work - framing for instance and a carpenter does the rest. Where does his warranty start and end? There are some problems going down this path. Stewie Re: builder owner vs professional builder 37Aug 04, 2014 10:32 am Stewie D Where this argument falls down is when the original OB sells the property and some poor schmuck buys a house that is dodgi at best. Poor foundations, lack of proper termite proofing, wiring and plumbing not conforming to regs etc etc. I've seen a few in my time and the original builder should be shot. Stewie Argument doesnt fall down at all. Seriously did you think that comment out properly? Those items are regulated. If a house is dodgi on those items, its because the tradie or the certifier has not done their work properly, nothing to do with the unregulated work an OB does. Re: builder owner vs professional builder 38Aug 04, 2014 10:42 am bpratt I also think there should be more to getting a OB licence in Qld, as I thought it was too easy to get. No offence, but I think you dont understand what the OB licence course is. IT is not to teach you anything beyond the concept of progress payments and simple planning, all of which anyone with half a brain should be able to work out for themselves anyway. The Qld course is a tokenistic waste of time. Regulating OBers is just to
Re: builder owner vs professional builder 39Aug 04, 2014 10:58 am Stewie D Where this falls down of course is where the OB does some of the work - framing for instance and a carpenter does the rest. Where does his warranty start and end? There are some problems going down this path. Stewie Come on Stewie, it doesnt fall down at all. The erected frame has to be certified. If an OBer doesnt do it properly then it gets picked up on visual inspection, same as what happens as if it was framed by a builder. I know you have to protect your industry and stand up for it, but you cant deny all the ongoing cases here of licensed tradies doing the wrong thing (frame over hang for ex) As JB1 pointed out above, certifiers will come down harder on OBers as well, because they dont have a cosy ongoing working relationship with them to protect. And OBers I "think" do things slowly and more methodically, as opposed to tradies who just race through everything (including not reading plans properly). Warranty starts and ends same as wit a licenced builder . I dont see what problems there are as you claim? Re: builder owner vs professional builder 40Aug 05, 2014 7:30 pm Dear oh dear. I've seen some that were done by OB's that were very good but I have seen a few that were pretty awful too. They were passed by the engineer as being structurally compliant but they were as rough as guts. It is what you can't see that worries me. I asked an engineer a long time ago who basically said they are there just to make sure the building complies with the relevant codes but in no way reflects the quality of the build. And I'm not protecting my industry either; if there are dodgi builders out there de-register them. Simple. Stewie Hi VK, I am now retired however I have stood beside over 300 owner builders in the past 18 years that have successfully built their own homes. First of all a building… 10 22671 Hi all. Anyone know when the $11,000 limit was set in legislation for renovations in QLD? Ive been renovating for 5 years now and this was the limit back then. As we know,… 0 4244 |