Feb 21, 2014 12:55 pm
My partner and I are about to settle on our block in Warnbro (few weeks) and are a little concerned with the amount of traffic on it.
The block is right next to a primary school and an open space before the gate to the OSHC. The left hand boundry is not fenced (primary school side) which we plan on doing as soon as we go to settlement with approval of our builder. Our block has been empty for YEARS... hence parents have been using our block as a car park picking up their kids.
At 5:30pm on a Monday night, we had 6 cars parked on the block along with our "For Sale" sign (with under contract) removed and placed near the school fence. I know for a fact that the realestate agent wouldnt have moved it as those things aint cheap and as soon as it is sold the sign is picked up by their contractor. Taking a guess (because it was right at the front in prime "parking space") that someone has moved it. Cheek!
We have just had our survey done and our survey markers are gone and have now been replaced. The survey as most of you know isnt cheap, and we certainly dont want to fork more cash out for new markers.
Does anyone know what we can do until our block is settled? We dont really have the money for a temp fence hire at the moment (and the fact that it is not ours yet to do so) and I am not sure that contacting the school will get very far.
Re: High traffic block - stopping damage2
Feb 21, 2014 1:07 pm
block by sallyamcintyre, on Flickr
You can see at the top where the colourbond fence ends - this is where our block ends on the left.
Re: High traffic block - stopping damage3
Feb 21, 2014 1:10 pm
It won't stop them, but it will deter many from parking on there in the future. Get yourself some of the orange temporary fencing, even the onion bag version of it, along with some star pickets to stand it all up.
Go out there one weekend and put it up right along the front of your block, and partly up property boundary with the school. Get one of those Danger Construction Site signs and put it up on the front 'fence', but closer to the school end of it.
I would also contact the school and advise them since it is private property, and that your survey markers have been interfered with, you will take legal action of trespass against any further trespassers, and will hold the school wholly and solely liable for new surveyor work required. Let them know that you've already have 'blown your dough' on one visit by your surveyor pegging out your block that cost you x amount of dollars, and tell them what it was (pad it up a little if you like).
After all of this, if you still have people parking there, contact one of those towing or clamping companies to deal with them. If you feel a bit vindictive (and I can't blame you if you are), then put up some spike sticks well within your block, but where the cars are driving, so they'll spend some more time replacing their tyres... after all, they are trespassing.
Eventually you or the builder will have to hire that high chainmesh fencing to secure your site from theft when the building starts, and that's when they can't get in at all.
Re: High traffic block - stopping damage4
Feb 21, 2014 1:21 pm
Until it is yours there is not much you can do. I would suggest that contacting the school and having them put an item in their newsletter that the block is private property and parents are to cease parking there is the most you can do until the land is officially yours.
Once it's yours, go nuts. Fence it if you wish, or engage a private parking enforcement company who can monitor it and wheel clamp people free of charge to you (they get their money from the cars they clamp), stick up signs or tether a really large dog. lol.
Completed a knock down and rebuild in northern Melbourne.
Handover completed 27/09/2013 and now moved in.
Re: High traffic block - stopping damage5
Feb 21, 2014 11:12 pm
One other issue that you'll face is public liability in the event that someone trips over and injures themselves on your block.
There can be many long delays before a build starts.
Best that you get some kind of insurance, even if you get a security fence put up. Word of warning though, even fences can be hazards. E.g. Security fence blows over ( they can be unstable ), protruding wire on a star-picket / wire fence gashes someones leg. Just being the devil's advocate. Warning signs are not enough either.
Just before settlement on my land, I signed up with this crowd - and ensured coverage until builder's security fencing went up. Only costs $175 for 12 months.
Even though I had the insurance, I also periodically removed rubbish from my block before the build and had a lawn-mowing contractor slash the weeds / grass. Keep some kind of diary type record of periodically doing this, particularly given your block gets used for parking / short cuts.
Build thread: here
Land Nov 12, Contract 6/07/13,
Consent 15/08/13, Start 20/09/13, Slab 25/09/13, Frame 4/10/13, Brick 21/10/13, Roof 2/11/13, Lock-up 17/12/13, Handover 3/3/14
Re: High traffic block - stopping damage6
Feb 22, 2014 4:46 pm
I'm a Risk Analyst for an insurer & the amount of exposure you have to a potential liability claim is quite high...
Contacting the school re: The newsletter idea for the school is a good one, gives parents a heads up and by the time you settle hopefully traffic has died down and there won't be as much risk for you.
Lock Up: 20/8/14
Re: High traffic block - stopping damage7
Feb 22, 2014 6:57 pm
Every now and then my children's school warns and hands out a standard leaflet re parking rules and demerit/fines applicable that council rangers can enforce.
In addition to approaching the school (I would emphasis your concern for the children's safety when their guardians use your land) go to the local council with your concerns so they can send a ranger to observe the issues.
Re: High traffic block - stopping damage8
Mar 11, 2014 2:29 pm
We completed settlement yesterday and have purchased fencing material to complete the left hand fence. Hopefully (as soon as we have a free weekend!) we will have this put up to stop the traffic cutting across our block. Our builder is actually more than happy for us to do this before they start building as there is plenty of room from that fence to the slab (3m +)
Only thing we may need to arrange now (once the fence is up) is getting our builder to put in a temp fence at the front. Wait and see how we get on there, I have a few days off over this weekend so I will endevour to visit the block over these days at random times to see what the parking situation looks like during the day etc. I believe the fence we border on is for the OSHC only so its not as heavily used as the other gates however it is enough to have me concerned when it has been just used as a carpark.
I guess if it is quite bad I will approach the school and the OSHC first to see what we can come up with and then approach the rangers if the situation doesnt improve.
Re: High traffic block - stopping damage10
Mar 23, 2014 11:22 am
I'd be getting some labels done up - Private block - no Parking and place on their windscreens. Sticky - but removable.
Also - maybe be there around the time the people arrive and go over and tell them your block is not a parking area for the school.
BUT - a good way would be to write to the school - explaining the situation - and advising its a building site. Explain you don't want to take legal action ... but will if forced. BUT - be nice in your wording.
I'd say it will stop - but you'll always have the lazy ones who will ignore it all.
Some sort of cheap fencing - coloured ropes with flags might help. With a few "private" signs.
Re: High traffic block - stopping damage12
Apr 23, 2014 4:54 pm
We have started building our fence however have had to stop 3 pannels in so that we will have room for the cement truck to put a pad for the shed in the very back (can not go in until after the house pad). However I am happy to report that the issue of kids (we found out recently after meeting our fantastic new neighbours) have stopped riding their 4 wheeler on there, cars are parking to the far left and less if not no more rubbish is being dumped. I am taking a guess to say that either they see that something is happening there now and it is being respected or it was one of the neighbours
We are still to go to site, we are waiting on our title (six weeks after settlement and we have had a problem with the submitted paperwork) so it still going to be awhile
Will endevour to keep you all updated as we actually get moving on construction
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