Browse Forums Paving & Concreting Re: Stenciled vs Exposed Aggregate? 2Sep 22, 2010 12:10 am Where you are coming from is where you are going to... Re: Stenciled vs Exposed Aggregate? 4Sep 22, 2010 11:49 am Where you are coming from is where you are going to... Re: Stenciled vs Exposed Aggregate? 7Sep 24, 2010 4:19 pm So exposed aggregate...I've got a question. How easily those stones from the surface get loose and then get everywhere, in your car tyres, inside the house? With the bigger stones that probably wont be an issue but I did not like any exp agg driveway with bigger surface stones thats for sure. They look "messy". I liked some with smaller pebbles. But would a small pebble be fixed hard enough into a driveway not to get loose when a several tonnes car is going over it every day? I also was talking to one concreter before when I was thinking exp agg and then I asked for couple of addresses with his jobs and the first one I visited I just touched the surface and there were LOTS of loose stones. Is this a common prob with exp agg? Re: Stenciled vs Exposed Aggregate? 8Sep 24, 2010 5:29 pm Not sure on the new ones, but our driveway (when we stencilled over it) was nearly 15 years old and as I said it looked great it was just too rough on the feet, I didn't notice lots of loose stone, but then again I never really looked - but if it was it wasn't noticeable enough to make it into the house. ~ trying to build our dream home by the sea ~ Re: Stenciled vs Exposed Aggregate? 9Sep 25, 2010 10:19 am JC - I'mnot sure what angle you have but you have picked the wrong person to crap on to. Stone loss - you sure you're not talking about a gravel driveway? Exposed aggregate doesn't shed stones. Just wondering if you are going to post on anything else on the forum or just bag exposed aggregate? Where you are coming from is where you are going to... Re: Stenciled vs Exposed Aggregate? 10Sep 25, 2010 5:37 pm onc_artisan JC - I'mnot sure what angle you have but you have picked the wrong person to crap on to. Stone loss - you sure you're not talking about a gravel driveway? Exposed aggregate doesn't shed stones. Just wondering if you are going to post on anything else on the forum or just bag exposed aggregate? Wow, thats rude. Dont uderstand though what this general discussion about concreting has got to do with you personally. I was not talking to you or about you or about what you do. Well, I did try to ask you about advantages of exp agg over other technologies but you simply declined to answer. I also asked you about negative sides of other technologies compared to exp agg but you declined to answer as well. Well, just in case, I will try to explain myself again. I am not bagging anything. I am not even stating anything. I am just asking questions. Yes, I did mention that I saw several exp agg jobs that I did not like. Well, that could be simply due to poor jobs or poor maintenance or the fact that most of them used bigger stones and I prefer small pebbles. The "loose stone problem" that I mentioned may be also related to a poor job or simply a job that was not finished. I have concerns - I ask questions. If you look at my original post you can see that at the end there is a question - which technology is better exp agg or stenciled. So again, I was not stating anything. I was just trying to get as much information as I can before I choose one type of concreting for my driveway. Thats all. Why did you take it all personally I have no idea and it is unfortunate. Re: Stenciled vs Exposed Aggregate? 12Sep 25, 2010 8:35 pm Hehehehe You get nothing cc I know your type LOL. If I was gruff I am sorry.. JCormich I need a driveway for my new house and was going to get exposed aggregate until I asked couple of concreters to give me a few addresses to look at their exp agg completed jobs. In all cases I did not like how it looks after several years of use. JCormich On the other hand I liked several types of stenciled driveways that I can see in my area. Particulary some brown/dar yellow ones, even if they have some dirt/rust spots on it somehow it does not look that bad JCormich Some get some rusty stain spots( small pieces of metal got into mix? I dont know) some got rusty traces where rain water flows over the driway, others looked just messy. It seems to me that exposed aggregate doese not age well. JCormich So exposed aggregate...I've got a question. How easily those stones from the surface get loose and then get everywhere, in your car tyres, inside the house? With the bigger stones that probably wont be an issue but I did not like any exp agg driveway with bigger surface stones thats for sure. They look "messy". I liked some with smaller pebbles. But would a small pebble be fixed hard enough into a driveway not to get loose when a several tonnes car is going over it every day? I also was talking to one concreter before when I was thinking exp agg and then I asked for couple of addresses with his jobs and the first one I visited I just touched the surface and there were LOTS of loose stones. Is this a common prob with exp agg? Where you are coming from is where you are going to... Re: Stenciled vs Exposed Aggregate? 13Sep 28, 2010 11:23 am JCormich ... the first one I visited I just touched the surface and there were LOTS of loose stones. Is this a common prob with exp agg? That is bizarre. I've never heard of stones 'unsetting' from the aggregrate. Certainly not on our job or anyone else we know with it (different contractors). Re: Stenciled vs Exposed Aggregate? 14Sep 28, 2010 1:48 pm xquisite JCormich ... the first one I visited I just touched the surface and there were LOTS of loose stones. Is this a common prob with exp agg? That is bizarre. I've never heard of stones 'unsetting' from the aggregrate. Certainly not on our job or anyone else we know with it (different contractors). Are the loose stones produced in the porcess of work and then simply need to be swept away before sealing? If thats the case maybe thats what it was. Just a bit curious how theoretically a small pebble can stay in place when a heavy vehicle is driven over it every day? Maybe it is because the surface of the stone itself is very small so not too much pressure effectively applied to it. But, I mean, if it does not happen normally in practice then obviously it does not, which is good. Re: Stenciled vs Exposed Aggregate? 15Sep 28, 2010 10:37 pm Usually cement, sand and a few stones are washed from the finished surface of the concrete. A second rinse to remove residue cement and a few more stones. Then acid etch allow to dry a seal x 2 coats. The stones that remain are likely more than 50 % embedded. Can stones fall out? I'd say yes they could... ... but will the driveway wear away to nothing? NO! I don't ever remember seeing more than a few loose stones on a new driveway and never remember seeing any loose stones on an old exposed aggregate driveway. I hope my comments are seen as positive, though I submit somewhat recalcitrant Where you are coming from is where you are going to... Re: Stenciled vs Exposed Aggregate? 16Oct 22, 2010 8:52 am We've had both. I find the aggregate gets dirty easily and even if new, looks dated. loved the stenciled. Both require re lacquring. The beaty of stenciled is, if you want to change you colour of drive in a few years time, you can. Add colour to the lacquer and instant new driveway. Will be a solid colour though as opposed to the original colour oxide in concrete (that is if you have gone multi coloured). Go stenciled. Definately. Re: Stenciled vs Exposed Aggregate? 17Oct 22, 2010 4:48 pm Where you are coming from is where you are going to... Last year I had a gas leak at my house. 3 days later, I have about 1 sqm of my exposed aggregate paving broken up. I am not sure how to go about getting it repaired… 0 10403 After some ideas on making our patio kid friendly . Currently we have exposed aggregate. The patio faces west and is always in sun even though it has a shade directly… 0 3521 |