Actually I quite like the look of the first one
Browse Forums General Discussion Re: Eaves - The Final Verdict - You Decide! 62Nov 18, 2008 9:40 pm Do the hard jobs first. The easy jobs will take care of themselves. - Dale Carnegie Re: Eaves - The Final Verdict - You Decide! 65Nov 18, 2008 9:47 pm Do the hard jobs first. The easy jobs will take care of themselves. - Dale Carnegie Re: Eaves - The Final Verdict - You Decide! 73Nov 18, 2008 10:05 pm Maybe if there were more people talking about the big issues in residential construction, we'd actually see builders make more of an effort.
And if anyone can't handle the very mild and non-specific criticisms I make then I fear for their mental health if they choose to venture into real-world building. Maybe there should be a sticky: "So you're thinking about building". Edit: @ Lyn. No reason to go. We're all just getting warmed up ! Do the hard jobs first. The easy jobs will take care of themselves. - Dale Carnegie Re: Eaves - The Final Verdict - You Decide! 74Nov 18, 2008 10:13 pm I agree with you in general Cabinfever. I certainly couldn't give a crap what anyone says about my house. BUT, there is one thing to consider in this particular debate. That is that many people don't get eaves because they simply cannot afford them. As I said, most would have them if they could fit into their budget.
I just think that because it is generally a cost issue, we should be a bit careful. I'd hate there to be an undercurrent on this forum that you have to be building a certain type of house for people to enjoy your build. For people on tighter budgets to feel that their house isn't "good enough" to warrant a thread would be horrible I understand what you are saying, but can you see my point? Jo I leave you to fend for yourself, figure things out yourself. Terrence Malick Re: Eaves - The Final Verdict - You Decide! 75Nov 18, 2008 10:19 pm joles ... most would have them if they could fit into their budget. Not me!! joles I just think that because it is generally a cost issue, we should be a bit careful. I'd hate there to be an undercurrent on this forum that you have to be building a certain type of house for people to enjoy your build. For people on tighter budgets to feel that their house isn't "good enough" to warrant a thread. OK guys.... Heres the official smilie: Oh no hang on.... Some good points made...but back to the question please. Re: Eaves - The Final Verdict - You Decide! 78Nov 19, 2008 7:30 am Just to clear up any misunderstanding: my earlier posts were really talking about building in general rather than eaves.
As for eaves . . . the poll results seems to quite decisively show that people generally prefer eaves. But then that's more to do with the style of houses being built imo. Most houses at the moment are of a style that either clearly benefit from having eaves in a practical seasonal sense, or are so close to other designs of the past few decades that have traditionally had eaves, that people simply expect to see them. But I think the eave debate is just the tip of the issue. A house with *really wide* eaves would start to be like the traditional old Australian homestead with the all-round shaded verandah. A relic of that these days is the so-called alfresco - a generally shaded outdoor area. Then there's the "Queenslander" style which tends to have semi-outdoor sunrooms, sometimes open as verandahs, sometimes enclosed, all around the outside. In houses with no aircon, these are the places to be on hot days and nights to catch the breeze. Being high-set is also an advantage and has side benefits like less bugs and development potential. The Queenslanders and homestead styles are attempts to deal with climate and environment without massive airconditioning units and "green premium" products. My criticism of design these days - especially with lower priced new builds - is that you're not getting traditional solutions, nor high-end modern solutions. In that context the eaves / no eaves debate is literally just fiddling around the edges. Do the hard jobs first. The easy jobs will take care of themselves. - Dale Carnegie Re: Eaves - The Final Verdict - You Decide! 79Nov 19, 2008 7:46 am But cabinfever, all-round verandahs and queenslander construction are hopeless for winter energy efficiency in temperate climates such as yours.
I've only just started reading on this topic so go easy on me... .. but most things I've read so far indicate that a conventional BV is actually not too shabby at all in terms of efficiency as long as it has eaves (I said eaves! don't delete me! ), plenty of north-facing windows , dark tiles on the slab being bathed by sun through those windows, and minimal windows elsewhere. The Alfrescos you mention as relics of the verandah are actually something I scratch off floor plans immediately when considering them, as usually are on the north (=rear for me) and waste all that solar gain heating an outside floor surface. Unless you go with an extra passive shading structure such as louvres or a deciduous planting then eaves are a vital part of passive solar design for climates with cool winters. I thought this would be a popular question but I haven't been able to find any similar posts. Perhaps I'm wording my searches wrong? When you have car insurance and the… 0 6615 Update from me! Couldn't find the trimmer - not sure if there isn't one simply because the eave is so narrow. Went ahead with the spring toggles and it all worked out… 7 5860 The two 15mm holes are obviously not compliant. The Dept of Fair Trading would love to see this one! Do the gutters pool water after it stops raining? Although it's… 4 7843 |