Browse Forums Building A New House Re: Are eaves false economy for east and west? 23Aug 16, 2008 1:18 am mmm....donuts Homer Simpson 1956- Links: Site Costs Ready Reckoner | H1 Addiction Medical Advice | Château TDL: The Backyard Re: Are eaves false economy for east and west? 25Aug 16, 2008 10:07 am mmm....donuts Homer Simpson 1956- Links: Site Costs Ready Reckoner | H1 Addiction Medical Advice | Château TDL: The Backyard Re: Are eaves false economy for east and west? 26Aug 16, 2008 11:32 am 'chelle We have a hand-over date...15/10...but I won't hold my breath! http://people-in-glass-houses.blogspot.com/ Re: Are eaves false economy for east and west? 29Aug 16, 2008 1:54 pm mmm....donuts Homer Simpson 1956- Links: Site Costs Ready Reckoner | H1 Addiction Medical Advice | Château TDL: The Backyard Re: Are eaves false economy for east and west? 30Aug 16, 2008 2:00 pm 'chelle We have a hand-over date...15/10...but I won't hold my breath! http://people-in-glass-houses.blogspot.com/ Re: Are eaves false economy for east and west? 31Aug 16, 2008 2:08 pm mmm....donuts Homer Simpson 1956- Links: Site Costs Ready Reckoner | H1 Addiction Medical Advice | Château TDL: The Backyard Re: Are eaves false economy for east and west? 33Aug 16, 2008 2:15 pm 'chelle We have a hand-over date...15/10...but I won't hold my breath! http://people-in-glass-houses.blogspot.com/ Re: Are eaves false economy for east and west? 34Aug 16, 2008 3:12 pm mmm....donuts Homer Simpson 1956- Links: Site Costs Ready Reckoner | H1 Addiction Medical Advice | Château TDL: The Backyard Re: Are eaves false economy for east and west? 36Aug 16, 2008 4:22 pm No, No, No, Mike! That is not the lesson you are meant to learn from this.
Help, Steve!!! OK yes, you are right, for full length windows the standard eaves are not ideal, but they are better than nothing and are still quite good at blocking out most of the summer sun. There are sites you can go to where you can work out sun angles for where you live and so work out when you will get the sun etc. A bit too technical for me. http://solardat.uoregon.edu/SunChartProgram.html Because we are going down the custom build route, I can't really comment on the cost effectiveness of eaves. For us passive design was our priority and we will compromise on other things (we will most probably have bean bags in the formal lounge for quite some time ). I can't stand 'uncomfortable' houses, where you have to have the heaters going all winter, and really, in Tassie there should be no need for aircon I've been in many passive solar houses and they are great. Our neighbours have a straw bale house (no, not the neighbours I mentioned in neri's thread on vegie gardens ) In the middle of winter, they use a small fan heater for 15 min in the morning and sometimes another 15 min in the evening. And even the more 'conventional' houses are great. As I said earlier, I think it should come back to developers, in the way they design the subdivisions, and the big builders, in the way they design their houses, then the average Joe wouldn't need to weigh up the cost benefits of passive solar design. What is needed is an industry wide change in attitudes. OK, I think I've said enough...I'll put my soap box away 'chelle We have a hand-over date...15/10...but I won't hold my breath! http://people-in-glass-houses.blogspot.com/ Re: Are eaves false economy for east and west? 37Aug 16, 2008 4:57 pm 'chelle As I said earlier, I think it should come back to developers, in the way they design the subdivisions, and the big builders, in the way they design their houses, then the average Joe wouldn't need to weigh up the cost benefits of passive solar design. What is needed is an industry wide change in attitudes. Completely agree - the major builders need some serious re-education! There are so many project home designs that would struggle to be even remotely solar passive on any block orientation (all the designs with 'wraparound' bedrooms and a home theatre on the back). In Victoria our five star energy rating system is an absolute joke. Our house rated over six stars if you pointed it in ANY direction - even if the four largest windows faced due south. Glad they don't - it is a chilly 12 or 13 degrees outside but our living area is floating around the 20 degree mark ... with no artificial heating (and the doors being opened multiple times for hubby to come in and watch swimming finals!). Re: Are eaves false economy for east and west? 38Aug 19, 2008 12:10 am eaves - gee it must be 12 months since a good discussion like this has been started
I still think that an eave of some type is usefull in protecting the house and walls from a leak - even if it only a 6 inch eave. 12 is better. (15 and 40cm for those who don't understand inches) As Mike said - our pioneers had it right - large verandahs, always a spot to get away from the sun, in the warmth etc. ideal Next best thing - east - not really an issue, plant some nice trees - that will shade the front pretty well. North - lots of ideal measurements there. Do it as a priority West - keep them low as possible, and out as far as you can go. External blinds work best. South - just enough to protect the house. chelle - pics - one day. Internals nearly finsihed = pics soon Externals - later. But the views are still as good as ever = Sailing season soon - gee maybe things will slow down again The two 15mm holes are obviously not compliant. The Dept of Fair Trading would love to see this one! Do the gutters pool water after it stops raining? Although it's… 4 8442 Update from me! Couldn't find the trimmer - not sure if there isn't one simply because the eave is so narrow. Went ahead with the spring toggles and it all worked out… 7 6164 Which ceiling hook to use to hang Xmas lights under Eaves in 1st floor in 2 storey façade (no… 0 758 |