Browse Forums DIY, Home Maintenance & Repair Re: Battened Ceiling 8Jun 03, 2012 12:03 pm Thanks Uncle Arfur, yeah im a novice. Not a tradie but this is why im researching and talking to people. Ill get there, not going to shy away from trying thats for sure. Seem funny tho, more you talk to people more you get different ideas in your head. IE like using wooden batterns, or using metal channels!?! pros n cons or each. Then like my last post, do i glue n screw???? All a learning curve.... Re: Battened Ceiling 9Jun 04, 2012 12:45 pm IF your ceilings are flat there is nothing to stop you screwing the new gyprock sheets up through the old ceiling, once you have located the ceiling joists, as is done in many make-overs. If you cant locate them, then use furring channel. The only way to tell if the ceiling is flat is with a straight edge and visual inspection. BUT before you go any further get yourself a booklet that was (and I hope still is) put out free by Boral, called 'Plasterboard Installation Manual'. Its about 50 pages and will answer all your questions and with pictures. Arfur Re: Battened Ceiling 10Jun 08, 2012 12:36 pm The problem I can see with fixing straight through the old ceiling is that modern plasterboard is designed to be fixed with a combination of manual fixings (screws) and adhesive, you need both in a system to work correctly If you fix directly over the old sheets then you can only glue to these and I doubt whether the glue will adhere correctly. Even if it does hold then you will have added extra weight too a ceiling that is held up predominantly by plaster strapping over the joists on the back of the old plasterglass ceiling. These straps often fail. If it is just the weight of the original ceiling then you can re-strap but if you add the extra weight of a new ceiling the first thing you may know about it is when the ceiling falls on your head. I'm not trying to be alarmist, and you may get away with it but for a very small amount of extra effort you should install furring channels as has been outlined above to make sure you can fix the new sheets in a correct way. Sometimes listening to DIY'ers at work can be the worst thing to do. The experienced voices that have commented above have outlined the correct way to tackle this job. All the best. Accessible Carpentry & Cabinets accessiblecarpentry@gmail.com accessiblecarpentry.com.au https://www.facebook.com/pages/Accessible-Carpentry-Cabinets/583314911709039 Re: Battened Ceiling 11Jun 08, 2012 2:02 pm chippy I don't think anyone was advocating fixing straight on top of the original sheets. Furring channel was sugested in all cases unless I missed a post. Apart from one post showing a suspended ceiling system, myself and Uncle Arfur are the others who have posted and both suggest furring channel. Just not sure why the DIY'er coment was needed Re: Battened Ceiling 12Jun 08, 2012 2:24 pm Mgilla, read HendosBoats post about 6 up from here, you'll see why I said what I did. I wasn't mentioning your post in a negative light, in fact yours and UncleAfurs were the experienced voices I mentioned. The DIY'er was at the OP's work. Just letting them know the pitfalls of this method. Accessible Carpentry & Cabinets accessiblecarpentry@gmail.com accessiblecarpentry.com.au https://www.facebook.com/pages/Accessible-Carpentry-Cabinets/583314911709039 Re: Battened Ceiling 13Jun 09, 2012 12:51 pm Yes Chippy I mentioned screwing through the old ceiling, and no offence taken Naturally one would have to locate the ceiling joists and use longer screws, as we did when coming across old peeling crappy bathroom ceilings where tenants were too lazy to clean the exhaust fan, so the moisture eventually stuffed the ceiling paint, beyond repair. Arfur Re: Battened Ceiling 14Oct 30, 2012 6:33 pm G'day, my first post and just thought I'd buy into this one. First I'd be going with the furring channel, though I wouldn't have called it that because until I saw it, and googled it. If I was covering a ceiling I would be up in the roof if possible poking holes through the existing ceiling to identify where the joists were. Is that not possible in this case? Re: Battened Ceiling 15Dec 03, 2012 7:05 pm My question is: why keep the old ceiling? It doesn't serve any purpose. cheerios to all Re: Battened Ceiling 16Dec 03, 2012 7:47 pm @leighton. I've pulled 2 horse hair ceilings down. The first had 80 years of simpson desert duststorms above it. The second 80+ years of possum & rat dung. I don't know which was worse. never EVER again. oh and go the furring channels, a good laser level, needle points and decent but lightweight cordless (ie 18v de-walt). Regards RiH Thank you @ashington Homes for your reply! They just got back to me and offered credit for me to just take it as is. It was a less than quotes I got from ceiling… 6 1848 How do you remove one of these ceiling air con vents? 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