Browse Forums Building A New House Re: How to wire a newly built house 6Feb 19, 2012 6:08 pm Building a Delta 21 at Craigieburn - http://homeofzero.blogspot.com.au/ Deposit: 26/02. Contract: 22/05. Settlement: 29/05. Site start: 18/10. Re: How to wire a newly built house 7Feb 19, 2012 10:13 pm akashra .... daveandally1 .... Thank you guys for your suggestions. Re: How to wire a newly built house 8Feb 19, 2012 11:04 pm I have my electrical appointment soon and i just want a bit of info on how to make things cost effective. I will be putting pull throughs and conduit throught the house but i don't know which is harder for sparkys to get to when we've moved in. We're having sarking, ceiling batts, wall wrap sisalation and soundscreen batts(bit more dense/thick than standard batts) in the external cavities. I cant imagine it being easy to reach the external cavity wall spaces to run cables without somehow damaging the sarking/wall wrap when they remove the roof tiles for access. So i am thinking if i should move all my power points to the external walls and get a few more done by the builder and put conduit and pull throughs throughout the middle of the house? Building with Jandson Homes - Eclipse 18. http://adgnetworks.blogspot.com/ Re: How to wire a newly built house 9Feb 22, 2012 7:59 pm AubinGroveFan Hi all, <cut> I understand that putting power/TV/data points are cheaper during construction than afterwards. <cut> We're thinking about putting 1TV point in every room plus 3-4 power points. What are the "Data" points for? At the moment we have wireless connections around the house: computer, Apple TVs, router, time capsule... Do I need to install CAT6 cable to connect AppleTV, normal TVs and Time Capsule to cut down on running Wi-Fi and use ethernet instead? <cut> What other points do I need to install for normal day to day use? <cut> So, to summarise, here is the list of things we want: 1. Install downlights after handover, to cut down on cost and bulder's outrages cost 2. Have router and Time Capsule sitting in study and be able to distribute content to Apple TVs (via ethernet cable instead of WiFi)??? 3. Have TV points in all bedrooms, Theather and Living Rooms 4. Connect TV's to internet via inbuilt ethernet port 5. Connect computer to router via Ethernet cable instead of WiFi to increase speed (not sure if it will make a difference)??? 6. Install Security Alarm System 7. Our house is in NBN area, so not really sure how it will work, do we need extra equipment or will it run like current ADSL service??? (Computer -> Router -> Internet) <cut> Data points are points in the house where you can plug in a computer, or potentially a telephone if you have telephone lines running over the points. You don't *need* cat 6, its better insulated, supports power over ethernet & faster speeds than cat 5e. So its a nice to have Having data points mean's you don't need wireless for the device that will plug into that spot. Some devices such as iPhones will only use wireless. (1) Have you got a quote for non-LED downlights? If the difference is huge you could replace them with LED's after handover. (3) Sounds nice, each point costs money though....and you'll need to have a TV point wired to a central point that you then split into multiple TV points. (4) Yes *or* wireless (5) Wired is always faster, if your an average internet user you might not notice the speed difference. (7) No difference as such, no special equipment required. Personally I'm planning to get a conduit with pull-wire installed so the NBN modem/router device can be installed into the central data cabinet that I will have. Re: How to wire a newly built house 10Feb 22, 2012 8:01 pm I forgot to mention...shop around for a good data cabler. My price went from $250 to closer to <$80/point for cat 6. Re: How to wire a newly built house 11Feb 22, 2012 10:30 pm Hi, I wired my own CAT 6 Cable and Coax (TV) throughout the house. Bought a 305m roll on ebay for $90. Checked with my SS first and he gave the all clear. I would definately put in Cat6 and not 5e - technology is only getting better and faster - and 5e (or Wireless) will not cut it soon for HD streaming (Blue ray) etc. Did it just after the framing stage so was easy to drill\feed through the walls... ended up with around 20 points in the end... Costed me $90 and about 1.5 days of work.. save myself a heap of money. As for LED DL - have organised a mate (sparky) to do after handover - 18 LEDs for $1200. Definately need to check your after build options and what you can do yourself during the build. Hope this helps Cheers, Alpal Building PD Heathmont 40 BLOG: http://alpal-pd-heathmont40.blogspot.com/ Deposit paid 19/08/2011 Contract signing 3/10/2011 Site Start 10/11/2011 Slab 23/11/2011 Re: How to wire a newly built house 12Feb 22, 2012 11:26 pm Very difficult/messy/destructive to install anything on internal walls once the house is done. Sparkles can get to external wall cavities no problem, leave the specifics up to them. I suggest moving everything necessary to internal walls and leaving the outside walls empty to install anything you want later, eg powerpoints, etc. Re: How to wire a newly built house 13Feb 23, 2012 5:59 am Hi, We're getting LED downlights ( Phillips 7W 40 deg dimmable GU10 ) installed in our double storey house we're building at the moment ( We're in Sydney by the way ), like you, we need about 70. The Electrician that the builder is with quoted us $130 + GST . We thought that was a bit much so we researched on the net & found a retailer that sold them for $40 incl GST. The electrician is charging us $35 just to install, which all up is $75, a saving of about $60/piece! The beauty of these lights is that not only are they energy efficient, but if anything happens to them you can just replace the whole thing yourself as they are individually wired, it's as easy as unplugging the light & replacing it, no hard wiring involved . The retailer that we got them from is a well known retailer in Sydney ( so these guys aren't faceless people on the net ) & I went & picked them up myself & are currently waiting for them to be installed. So just to sum up: 1. Do your research & find out exactly what you want. 2. Discuss with your builder the option of providing the lights & fittings yourself & asking them for an installation price. 3. Get a trusted brand LED globe so that you get value for money 4. By doing this, you will save money that I'm sure you'll have other uses for. I hope this helps Re: How to wire a newly built house 14Feb 23, 2012 8:37 am springtime Hi, We're getting LED downlights ( Phillips 7W 40 deg dimmable GU10 ) installed in our double storey house we're building at the moment ( We're in Sydney by the way ), like you, we need about 70. The Electrician that the builder is with quoted us $130 + GST . We thought that was a bit much so we researched on the net & found a retailer that sold them for $40 incl GST. The electrician is charging us $35 just to install, which all up is $75, a saving of about $60/piece! That's extremely cheap for LED downlights, our normal downlighst cost that much. I rang up couple of electricians and they quoted me between $120 and $160 per downlight installed. Re: How to wire a newly built house 15Feb 23, 2012 1:17 pm Well, you get to save if you buy the globe & housing & and then asking an electrician or your builder to install them. You see, if you ask the electrician or builder to quote you on supply & install, they charge you about 20% for profit ( I guess that's how they make business ). However, if you supply the globe & housing, you take out the middle man and save. As I said, we got good quality globe ( see reviews on the net for the Philips 7W LED 40 deg dimmable ) not just a no name brand LED . If you need the name of the retailer we got them from, let me know & I'll pm you the details as I'm sure there would be one in WA. Re: How to wire a newly built house 16Feb 23, 2012 1:24 pm Sorry, forgot to add that there was an even cheaper one that we got quoted for that's American from memory called CREE LED ( I think they're around $35 ( Bulb only ) which is also a GU10. I believe it's just as good as the Philips but hubby was deadset on Philips & we settled on that... Re: How to wire a newly built house 18Feb 23, 2012 3:53 pm Alpal I wired my own CAT 6 Cable and Coax (TV) throughout the house. 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