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Browse Forums Eco Living Re: November 2009 8Jul 13, 2008 7:28 pm Yes, but hopefully the government will get their act together and organise recycling for these bullbs. BTW more mercury is released during the life of an incandescent bulb powered by a coal fired power plant than is contained in a single CFL, so there is still less mercury released into the environment by using CFL's.
mattwalker Where does it all end? Hate to break it to you, but I have heard that halogen downlights are next....but not until there are replacement globes readily and cheaply available, I suppose. 'chelle We have a hand-over date...15/10...but I won't hold my breath! http://people-in-glass-houses.blogspot.com/ Re: November 2009 9Jul 13, 2008 10:30 pm maybe check with your local shire. Our shire has arranged days we can go to certain tips to get rid of globes, asbestos etc. Only 2 days a year though, so it means storing them until the days come round Re: November 2009 10Jul 16, 2008 3:44 pm Guys this is a good thing. The sooner we get rid of these energy burning little buggers the better!!!
The most common concern also appears to be the colour of the light output from the CFL. They are available in both a white and yellow tinge - there is therefore no discernable difference in lighting. I personally can't wait till LED technology increases and we can than ban the halogen downlight too. Re: November 2009 11Jul 16, 2008 7:21 pm mattwalker mel does that help? Nup! So my normal Low voltage downlights - are they affected? The incandescent lights are going (kinda a shame as I like the light colour, but better for the greenies!!) What else? What about the globes in my path lighting? The globes in my oven and microwave and rangehood? The globes in my friges? Where does it all end? Oven, refrigerator, etc are not affected (at least now). To quote the website. Specialty bulbs such as oven lights, bathroom heat lamps, and medical lights will not be affected until viable, cost effective, and efficient alternatives are available. Demolition August 2009, Construction Started September 2009, Completed December 2010 Re: November 2009 12Jul 17, 2008 2:24 pm Craig J Guys this is a good thing. The sooner we get rid of these energy burning little buggers the better!!! The most common concern also appears to be the colour of the light output from the CFL. They are available in both a white and yellow tinge - there is therefore no discernable difference in lighting. I personally can't wait till LED technology increases and we can than ban the halogen downlight too. you realise that most CFLs do not work with dimmer switches and also dont appreciate turning on and off frequently. when we designed the lighting in our house energy bulbs and relays where used for lights that would be on for long periods and dimmers and standard bulbs used in other areas. For example our long hallway has 4 lights in, they are 60w and turn on from a sensor then off again shortly after, after a certain time at night they turn on to a much lower level so if you getup to goto the toilet you dont get blinded, where as the study which is on for long periods has an energy bulb and a relay. Re: November 2009 13Jul 17, 2008 2:56 pm I can't stand the light given from CFL's...they give me a head ache, and I will not be incorporating any in my new house...sorry greenies! I have heard they can cause all sorts of problems for those who have epilepsy due to the flickering. I will be replacing my halogens and incandescent globes once something suitable comes along!
BTW, Freedom were throwing out the 'pear shaped' incandescent globes for 50c! I will be stocking up! Henley - Wilshire Mk 3 ... I love my house!! Site start: 4th Feb 09 Handover: 10th Sep 09 Blog: http://stormygirlscastle.blogspot.com/ Build Thread: viewtopic.php?t=7166 Re: November 2009 14Jul 18, 2008 3:05 pm Stormy I can't stand the light given from CFL's...they give me a head ache, and I will not be incorporating any in my new house...sorry greenies! I have heard they can cause all sorts of problems for those who have epilepsy due to the flickering. Flickering should not be happening if you have the right type. The newer types run at hundreds of thousands of hertz and cannot be detected by the human eye. Don't confuse with the old strip tubes with magnetic starters - like they have on trains GRrrr... As for the light, if it is the colour (tempreature) that bothers you, try shopping around - just about any colour is available these days. A bit of research will reveal a whole range of options now available. For instance, low mercury types are available. These use about an eighth the amount of mercury a typical CFL uses and are getting better all the time. This together with careful disposal actually significantly reduces the amount of mercury released into the environment. Considerable amounts of mercury (and radioactive products for that matter) are released into the environment when coal is burnt to make electricity. Re: November 2009 15Aug 23, 2008 11:52 pm Dimmable fluros ... well, I lashed out and got one for our lounge. Trying to do the right thing.
It flickered like crazy! Simply would not dim without flickering and then POP! it died. I took it back to safeway who tried to tell me there was something wrong with my light fitting. The normal globes work fine. So, now what! Not forking out almost $20 on another fluro to have it die. Any suggestions? Are some fluro brands not as good as others? Timbacare - Save Your Furniture! We can help you revive timber furniture & flooring www.timbacare.com.au Re: November 2009 16Aug 24, 2008 12:19 am We have a house full of CFLs, but I will be stocking up on 40W or 60W bulbs for rooms like toilets & wardrobes - anywhere the light will be used frequently for very short periods of time (an incandescent globe will last for years ... even CFL manufacturers don't recommend them for such use) Re: November 2009 18Aug 24, 2008 9:29 am I prefer the warm white bulbs.
11watt bulbs typically as I have large open space. 3 of them on a chandilier style fitting is easily doing an area that is 5metres x 5 metres for task lighting, such as painting th walls etc, and a single wall mounted 8 watt on is enough as a TV or sit below and read light. Re: November 2009 19Aug 24, 2008 11:34 am Timbacare Dimmable fluros ... well, I lashed out and got one for our lounge. Trying to do the right thing. It flickered like crazy! Simply would not dim without flickering and then POP! it died. I took it back to safeway who tried to tell me there was something wrong with my light fitting. The normal globes work fine. So, now what! Not forking out almost $20 on another fluro to have it die. Any suggestions? Are some fluro brands not as good as others? I concur with this experience... tried many different dimmable CFL's in my house only to have them go "POP" (even when the dimmer isn't in action - ie: turned up to max). They die for a few days, and they come back for a limited time. I've had a local electrician validate my lighting after blowing about $100 in globes in a few weeks. Bunnings, Coles and Safeway wouldn't take back the blown globes even with a certificate of electrical safety and the statement written from the sparky that the wiring it correct to support dimmable globes. So at $12 - $20 a piece, i'm gunna go buy about 20 or so incandesant lights as 'backup' for these 4 dimmable lights. The others in the house are already on CFL and are fine. Re: November 2009 20Aug 24, 2008 12:52 pm Timbacare Dimmable fluros ... well, I lashed out and got one for our lounge. Trying to do the right thing. It flickered like crazy! Simply would not dim without flickering and then POP! it died. I took it back to safeway who tried to tell me there was something wrong with my light fitting. The normal globes work fine. So, now what! Not forking out almost $20 on another fluro to have it die. Any suggestions? Are some fluro brands not as good as others? brand ??? another method is to use DSI, thats a bit more complex |