Browse Forums Building Standards; Getting It Right! Re: Framing stage concerns, advice please 3Aug 07, 2011 11:06 pm Im no expert but.... 1. I wouldnt worry about the frame getting wet. Just make sure your frame has dried up properly before affixing plaster. 2. "Procedure" seems to be dependant on the builder. Whilst its not typical, I dont see any problem with the bricking having been started 3. Garage is fine. Bricked columns act as the reinforcement/strength. Alternatively you can have the garage wall double bricked. All provides the same strength 4. Not sure about this - we did build on a slab. Onc or someone else will be able to help you more Custom European Cabinets - Melbourne Kitchen Specialist PM for business details as website currently being updated! Our Crazy Owner Builder Journey! Re: Framing stage concerns, advice please 4Aug 08, 2011 12:27 pm If that's the worst crack you have got you have no problems at all The Harder You Try - the Luckier You Get ! Web site http://www.anewhouse.com.au Informative, Amusing, and Opinionated Blog - Over 600 posts on all aspects of building a new house. Re: Framing stage concerns, advice please 5Aug 08, 2011 2:37 pm The only thing I would be worrying about there is expansion joints. I can't see any in your pictures. And the lowest course of bricks on the side wall there doesn't align with the remaining courses. It's normal to use brick columns to support the garage wall instead of a wooden frame. Most garages I've seen are made that way. Metricon Riva 33 - http://herlihy-riva.blogspot.com Site start 15/03/2010 - Handover 23/12/2010 9 months and 8 days (284 calendar days) from site start to handover Re: Framing stage concerns, advice please 6Aug 08, 2011 9:42 pm Hi btherl, how do you identify an expansion joints for the slab from my pictures? Anyone else know about this? And I noticed you mentioned the lowest course of bricks on the side wall doesn't align with the remaining courses. Why is that? Is it because builder have to use some other bricks for the slab holding purpose while my selected brick has not arrive? That will be really silly!!! Re: Framing stage concerns, advice please 7Aug 08, 2011 10:07 pm Quote: how do you identify an expansion joints for the slab from my pictures? I believe btherl is talking about expansion joints in your brickwork. From the pictures you have posted there's no distinguishable gap, say for example, Like ⋅ Add a comment ⋅ Pin to Ideaboard ⋅ . Check your structural plans for where these joints (sometimes called articulation joints) should be. Re: Framing stage concerns, advice please 8Aug 09, 2011 9:33 am What I mean by "doesn't align" is that the gap between the bricks doesn't line up vertically. If you look at the wall next to the door in your first picture, the gaps between bricks all line up. But under the door they don't, they are staggered. A bit like this: self::bbcode_second_pass_code_cb The bottom course of bricks doesn't line up with the third course. It's possible they didn't consider window and door locations when they did the first course, and then they had to adjust it so the bricks would look nice next to the doors and windows. What irkj posted is what I am talking about with expansion joints. My understanding is most houses need them every 5 metres, to stop the mortar cracking when soil under the house settles. Instead, the bricks can move along the expansion joint and nothing cracks. But in your house I can't see any along the whole side wall. Maybe you are building on very solid ground and don't need them? I would ask your builder about it just to be sure. Actually I think I'm talking about articulation joints, as discussed here: http://www.boral.com.au/Images/common/c ... /1_209.pdf That document says articulation joints are not required for stable sites. Metricon Riva 33 - http://herlihy-riva.blogspot.com Site start 15/03/2010 - Handover 23/12/2010 9 months and 8 days (284 calendar days) from site start to handover Re: Framing stage concerns, advice please 9Aug 09, 2011 9:59 pm thanks a lot btherl and irkj, I really learnt a lot from building my first house. If you do not mind, I got one more concern regards to the noggins of frame like pic below, I do not think it is the right way to hammer the panel between stud and is there a solution to this? Thanks heaps http://i1106.photobucket.com/albums/h369/umehomes/Noggins-2.jpg http://i1106.photobucket.com/albums/h369/umehomes/Noggins-3.jpg Re: Framing stage concerns, advice please 10Aug 09, 2011 10:47 pm Is there any wall wrap behind that brickwork? That noggin should really be replaced as its too short. Doing the brickwork before frame is completed doesn't allow for the inspector to see the external side of the frame. This means he can't be sure the bracing has been nailed off correctly. Success is the result of good judgment, good judgment is the result of experience, and experience is often the result of bad judgment! Re: Framing stage concerns, advice please 11Aug 20, 2011 8:58 pm umehomes 2. Is it the right procedure to start some brick work while roof truss still not complete? 3. See the brick work at garage area, is it normal no timber frame in the garage area but only brick? Brick layer said they will build additional brick column to support roof truss on garage therefore no timber frame. Thanks heaps With points 2 and 3, just remember that the brick wall does not support the weight of the roof, the brick wall is just a decorative/protective skin for the timber frame, which is where all the strength is. So yes no problem to start doing the wall before the roof trusses are complete and with the garage as they have said they will build some support columns. This will probably support a lintel which in turn will support the trusses. Thanks for all replies. 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