Browse Forums Building A New House Re: telephone cable connection problems 3Apr 16, 2011 8:15 pm The old house was connected to the other pit, i.e. the one with the spare connections. The reason they put the telephone conduit to the other pit was because this pit was near the underground power connection, so they shared the same trench. (there was no underground power on the other side - the old house was attached to the overhead power). The builder is denying any responsibility and said they were doing me "a favour" by bringing the telephone conduit to the street - whilst there was an open trench for the electricity cable. Anyway, I don't know what I'm going to do now. It's going to have to go back to Telstra to see what can be worked out. I can't get a trench to the other pit now because there is just too many concrete slabs and retaining walls in the way. It is something I should have checked - yes I know. Big stress. Re: telephone cable connection problems 4Apr 16, 2011 9:40 pm Lets hope Telstra comes to the party,I think builder should take responsibility Re: telephone cable connection problems 5Apr 16, 2011 9:49 pm I'm not even sure though what Telstra can do. Maybe they can put another connection in. If the pits are connected maybe they can pull a wire in from the other pit. Don't know. Just worried how much it's all going to cost. Re: telephone cable connection problems 6Apr 17, 2011 7:35 am Which pit is physically closer? I thought it had to go to the closest pit. There was no room for us using the infrastructure in our street (even though there was a pit nearby) so Telstra had to dig up the street and put in new cabling and a new pit to accommodate us (at their cost) - slightly different I know, but if you've cabled to the closest pit you could try using that as justification for Telstra covering the costs. Re: telephone cable connection problems 7Apr 17, 2011 10:28 am Both pits are pretty well equally distant to the house. the reason the builder went to this pit was because there was only underground power available near this pit - so they used the same trench for both the electricity and phone conduit. Even if Telstra wanted to fix it - not sure how they would. Maybe they can pull a wire between the pits - but I can't see them pulling up my exposed agg driveway to run a cable. Re: telephone cable connection problems 8Apr 17, 2011 1:21 pm Can't they trench underneath it? When I had both my electricity pit put in and trenching for the phone from property boundary to pit, both contractors had to trench under the footpath and neighbours crossover to get to the nearest pole. My new gas connection was also trenched under the footpath from the mains in the street to my gas meter on the side of my house. As long as they know where all the other conduits are, surely it could be feasable? Henley - Wilshire Mk 3 ... I love my house!! Site start: 4th Feb 09 Handover: 10th Sep 09 Blog: http://stormygirlscastle.blogspot.com/ Build Thread: viewtopic.php?t=7166 Re: telephone cable connection problems 10Apr 17, 2011 1:42 pm What they used with my place (both times) was a very long black hose (about the size of the conduit), that 'burrowed' under the footpath/crossover. I don't know whether it used compressed air, or just vibrated madly, but it dug it's way through the soil and underneath, and made the ground shake. We had about 5 metres of footpath/crossover to trench underneath and it had no trouble whatsoever....twice. I don't know whether it would be an option for your place, only the contractors doing the work would know, but trenching under things can be done. This is when I had my phone installed from pit to house. I had the trenching done on the property via the bob cat (no landscaping/driveway), but from boundary to pit (at the bottom of the nearest electricity pole) was done via underground trenching. You can see the long black and yellow hoses which were used to trench underground. This is the best pic I have at the moment, but will try and dig up another. Like ⋅ Add a comment ⋅ Pin to Ideaboard ⋅ Henley - Wilshire Mk 3 ... I love my house!! Site start: 4th Feb 09 Handover: 10th Sep 09 Blog: http://stormygirlscastle.blogspot.com/ Build Thread: viewtopic.php?t=7166 Re: telephone cable connection problems 11Apr 17, 2011 1:52 pm Thanks Stormy - that's great info. I guess I'll just have to wait and see what they come up with. Trenching under the driveway seems to be the best option at the moment - didn't realise that it could be done. Re: telephone cable connection problems 12Apr 26, 2011 10:57 am hi tazr suspect builder should have put cable in to pit anyway-not just sticking up out of ground (check your contract) usually there would be conduit connecting the two pits?? so you should be able to stick a rod through and pull cable in to original pit or liney can go in oppposite direction and join to another pit up the street--I assume this is an old pit that builder has almost run cable to??pull lid on pit and look for coduits in ends or maybe other cables if there is you should be right one way or another. john high hopes Re: telephone cable connection problems 13Apr 26, 2011 11:04 am Apparently only Telstra or qualified contractor can actually connect to the pit. The builder said they were "doing me a favour" by bringing the cable out to the street. They were just using the same trench as for the electricity cable. They might have a point, but they have been mostly unapologetic. From my understanding, only Telstra (or suitable contractors) are supposed to run the cable from the pit to the first connection point in the house because there are all sorts of rules to conform to regarding depth of the conduit, type of conduit, cable etc. Re: telephone cable connection problems 14Apr 26, 2011 11:07 am high hopes hi tazr suspect builder should have put cable in to pit anyway-not just sticking up out of ground(check your contract) usually there would be conduit connecting the two pits?? It isn't the builders pit thus they can't touch it.. most comms cabling is done this way so Telstra can come along later and do the work you are paying them for.... Quote: so you should be able to stick a rod through and pull cable in to original pit or liney can go in oppposite direction and join to another pit up the street--I assume this is an old pit that builder has almost run cable to??pull lid on pit and look for coduits in ends or maybe other cables if there is you should be right one way or another. john high hopes please don't instruct people what they can and can't do.. the fact you are instructing the OP to be tampering with telecommunicatiosn cabling, I hope you have good PLI (Public Libilty Insurance)/ PII (Professional Imdemity Insurance) Telstra and the builder should sort this out... Kodiak Data Cabling onFaceBook Consult*, Design and Installation Data, TV, Home Theatre/ AV Cabling, Multi Room Audio, IP CCTV and Door Intercoms Ask for a Quote. *DIY DATA Cabling Is Ilegal Re: telephone cable connection problems 15Apr 26, 2011 11:44 am hi pugs wouldn't the builder have an electrician with a license to do that stuff (it use to be austel license)and they dont just stick cable up out of the ground anywhere--I realise there may be "local" arrangements to save time in some areas and these regulations tend to change-most likely the telstra guy will do his best to sort it out I assume this has been done and we have reached a stalemate? john Re: telephone cable connection problems 16Apr 26, 2011 11:57 am high hopes hi pugs wouldn't the builder have an electrician with a license to do that stuff (it use to be austel license)and they dont just stick cable up out of the ground anywhere--I realise there may be "local" arrangements to save time in some areas and these regulations tend to change-most likely the telstra guy will do his best to sort it out I assume this has been done and we have reached a stalemate? john Builders ususaly contract the install of the lead ins to third parties who know what they are doing.. I know a few companies here in SA use one contracting firm to do all the Lead ins: Power, Telephone and Water. as Power and telephone need to end up at the same general location on the side of the house for earthing reasons a conduit under the drive way is do able and shouln't need to dig up the drive way if they have enough brains/ skills. Kodiak Data Cabling onFaceBook Consult*, Design and Installation Data, TV, Home Theatre/ AV Cabling, Multi Room Audio, IP CCTV and Door Intercoms Ask for a Quote. *DIY DATA Cabling Is Ilegal Re: telephone cable connection problems 17Apr 26, 2011 12:09 pm the budget will be the issue I think by the sound of it- "usually" there would be a conduit joining the two pits but hard to say may be new pit and not joined to existing infrastructure?? otherwise tazr may have to get quote on new conduit to join pits or to run to old pit--messy option pole at front then in to old pit probably cost same anyway and stuck with small pole at front of house uurrgg john Re: telephone cable connection problems 18Apr 26, 2011 12:10 pm Pugs a conduit under the drive way is do able and shouln't need to dig up the drive way if they have enough brains/ skills. My driveway is very wide - maybe 6 metres or more, so I'm concerned they will have trouble with the distance. Just wondering what the name of the process/machine they use to put a conduit under the driveway? I just want to make sure I've done all my homework before they come back to me with a list of options. Re: telephone cable connection problems 19Apr 26, 2011 12:33 pm hi tazr I've seen it done that way ( using a borer of some kind to go under driveways) dont know what they are called though sorry mate, but definately no conduit joining pits?? john I am looking at replacing some overhead power cable and I am trying to work out what gauge of cable this is so I can price it. The outer edge of the sheath has a diameter… 0 689 3 52186 |