Browse Forums Building A New House Re: Builder won't let us... 3May 15, 2008 11:30 am The most beautiful doors and furniture in the World Re: Builder won't let us... 12May 15, 2008 2:12 pm natbut kiwi056 natbut I'm sick of how sooo many builders can get away with whatever they want!!!!! I hope this doesn’t come out all wrong… Granted not all of us like how some of the group builders tend to inflate prices to ridiculous levels, but at the end of the day it’s our decision to build with them or not. They are well within their rights to allow/refuse access and work during construction because at the end of the day it belongs to them. It’s no different to us allowing who we like to enter our homes after handover. If there is anything we’re not happy with then change builders, or get the work done afterwards, although getting anything major done afterwards can in itself create problems when it comes to laying blame with problems occur with the house. This is why we ended up paying more to get a custom built house so that we could have any and everything we wanted to be installed during construction. But this is not for everyone since it requires more effort on your part to ensure things keep moving. Believe me if money was not an option I would definately not be using a project builder. Unfortunately, my house is a 'special' deal and because of this the builders have been able to get away with charging for things that I would normally argue about. I also wish more of the building contracts (ie the standard HIA one) weren't so biased for the builder. I love the standard HIA contract... especially Schedule 3, Method 1 Progress Payments...... "Lock Up Stage" means = "The stage when a home's external wall cladding and roof covering is fixed, (here is the bit I love) the flooring is laid and external doors and external windows are fixed (even if those doors and windows are only temporary"... If your flooring is not laid when they present you with the lock up invoice, point this out to them, this is the contract and this is final... Don't point it out any earlier.... If they damage your floors before handover they are liable.... Gav & Vanessa Building In Melbourne (Sth East Suburbs) http://www.arkraider.blogspot.com/ Rawdon Hill Construction - Canterbury Heritage Re: Builder won't let us... 13May 15, 2008 4:04 pm Thankyou all for your replies... Much appreciate it...
Yep, I know it's their ball game and you can play elsewhere, if you don't like their rules, but what ever happened to the customer is always right? Seems like the building industry gets everything its way! Just have a look at all the posts on this website... Obviously things ain't right when all these people have a complaint or querie about something! Sorry, I'll get off the soapbox now... Cheers... Re: Builder won't let us... 14May 15, 2008 4:11 pm If you are confident that the trademen that you are hiring will do the quality job, considered it done after handover. it will save you heaps.
For the floor tiles, my friend was able to save $900. On the top of that she does not need to pay 25% of tiler charge. It is your call! Re: Builder won't let us... 15May 19, 2008 11:45 pm I would in NO way ever defend builders... In my experience with Adenb***k they are SOOO greedy, even to the point where when I offered one tradie a bit of cash on the side for a tiny extra job and he told me the SS would pull his work down if they didn't make their margin on it.
Having said that I do understand that if you lay floors and then they damage it that they will have to fix it. In my business I wouldn't take on any liability if I wasn't making money on it. IMO they do have a right to make you wait until after handover. Your tiler/carpenter could do a **** job and you could claim that one of their tradies were to blame. Re: Builder won't let us... 16May 20, 2008 8:29 am Quote: Lock Up Stage" means = "The stage when a home's external wall cladding and roof covering is fixed, (here is the bit I love) the flooring is laid and external doors and external windows are fixed (even if those doors and windows are only temporary"... If your flooring is not laid when they present you with the lock up invoice, point this out to them, this is the contract and this is final... Don't point it out any earlier.... If they damage your floors before handover they are liable.... Think your definitions might be out there a bit gaz Flooring is different to floor coverings Steve Re: Builder won't let us... 17May 20, 2008 9:22 am Quote: In my experience with Adenb***k they are SOOO greedy, even to the point where when I offered one tradie a bit of cash on the side for a tiny extra job and he told me the SS would pull his work down if they didn't make their margin on it. We are getting flooring installed by builder so my comments are not directly about the topic but.... In fairness to builders, I must mention that ours has let us do other things outside the contract without any hassle. For example, we are doing the airconditioning ourselves, builder has been fine with that from the beginning, even though this means there is no builders mark-up on it and aircon installer has had free access to pre-install the ducting etc before the ceilings went on, also we are paying an outside company to install roller shutters, they were allowed to pre-install the wiring and the builders own plasterer is orgainisng a decorative archway for us, we are paying him privately for costs of this and there has been no issue from the builder about any of this. Re: Builder won't let us... 18May 21, 2008 2:44 pm we had the same problem, but we asked the builder about it before signing papers... we ended up asking the builder to leave out the skirting board out from the whole house except wet areas, so that we could lay the floor boards after handover, which also means we now need to install the skirting boards ourselves also!! It's the only way out i think...
They won't let any other contractors on site due to OHS Good luck Re: Builder won't let us... 19May 21, 2008 5:21 pm Hi all,
Our building is cutting, painting and then tacking the skirtings down that that we know where they are meant to go, they are ready to be laid properly etc. but we can pull them up and put our flooring underneith. This might be another option that is less work that cutting and laying them yourself. Re: Builder won't let us... 20May 22, 2008 1:05 pm Our builder "tacked" the skirting boards. But after all the experiences with timber flooring (see 3 posts from my blog below). I would suggest NOT to install any skirting boards and install them after your flooring boards done if possible.
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