Browse Forums Landscape & Garden Design Re: Magnetic Water 4Nov 15, 2010 8:21 am Do the hard jobs first. The easy jobs will take care of themselves. - Dale Carnegie Re: Magnetic Water 10Nov 15, 2010 12:11 pm Dear J.K. Rowling, Your books are entirely unrealistic. I mean, a ginger kid with two friends? Sincerely, Anonymous Re: Magnetic Water 12Nov 15, 2010 6:02 pm My wife pointed this video from Today Tonight about magnetic water. She is very skeptic. But I love trying new technology. I'm considering trialling it this coming holiday. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YVL6tfGh ... _embedded#! Re: Magnetic Water 13Nov 15, 2010 10:27 pm Then close it, nothing happens in the end anyway. Get the book Gardening Down Under By Kevin Handrek. Now that will give some good info http://www.publish.csiro.au/pid/2751.htm That will actually help you. Re: Magnetic Water 14Nov 15, 2010 10:41 pm What the concept is about is taken pretty seriously by many in Horticulture and irrigation. It has been featured by some of the best irrigation organisation papers. The concept is this, that water molecules cluster into bigger groups of molecules, essentially giving us big lumps of water at a tiny size. The magnetic douva-lackies spiral the water through and past magnets which apparently break these bonds and create smaller, freer water molecules. Now for this reason it is said that plants absorb the water far more efficiently. These can also be bought as shower heads and again, it is said you will feel hydrated as the smaller water molecule clusters absorb into the skin more efficiently. When this is applied to drinking water people say they can feel the difference in the water. Like it feels softer and they feel more hydrated. This is from tests where folks are blindfolded and given different samples of water. Growth rates of plants do show big differences between treated and untreated water supplies. It does interest me because during a storm the rain is different to that in regular rain. It feels different and plants respond differently (although that is more likely due to the nitrates in the water from the presence of lightning) However who is to say there is more to it? The energy and feel after a storm has passed certainly is different than before. I guess if we sense it and can react to that, then so can a plant. Pretty out there stuff, but so was saying the world is round once upon a time Re: Magnetic Water 15Nov 16, 2010 5:56 am Fu Manchu What the concept is about is taken pretty seriously by many in Horticulture and irrigation. It has been featured by some of the best irrigation organisation papers. The concept is this, that water molecules cluster into bigger groups of molecules, essentially giving us big lumps of water at a tiny size. The magnetic douva-lackies spiral the water through and past magnets which apparently break these bonds and create smaller, freer water molecules. I find this hard to believe, mechanical magnetic manipulation of water atoms but if science makes a case for it. Do you have the link? I know microwave/radio resonant frequencies at certain harmonic ranges can cause saline water to become a magnet, but that is a different beast again. 3 diatomic elements and 1 highly reactive metal = hours of fun. Fu Manchu Now for this reason it is said that plants absorb the water far more efficiently. These can also be bought as shower heads and again, it is said you will feel hydrated as the smaller water molecule clusters absorb into the skin more efficiently. When this is applied to drinking water people say they can feel the difference in the water. Like it feels softer and they feel more hydrated. This is from tests where folks are blindfolded and given different samples of water. Growth rates of plants do show big differences between treated and untreated water supplies. Correlation does not equal causation. Something else is quite possibly happening such as proton bound particles and metals clustering around a magnetic field. This would 'clean' the water of impurities, even possibly the plastics from the holding container. You can suck mud out of water by adding ferrite metals. Give it a good stir and then apply a magnet. 98% of the mud is removed. Fu Manchu It does interest me because during a storm the rain is different to that in regular rain. It feels different and plants respond differently (although that is more likely due to the nitrates in the water from the presence of lightning) However who is to say there is more to it? The energy and feel after a storm has passed certainly is different than before. I guess if we sense it and can react to that, then so can a plant. It might well be both. Water has a slight negative charge, clouds and humid weather can ionize water - hence lightening. The 'dirty' energy before hand is air full of dust and positive charge. Your clothes are static etc etc. Static can make you feel annoyed or touchy. After a good storm the air is cleaner and holds little charge. This gives you a calm feeling. Static on a hair brush would have a far greater influence that a magnet. Oxygen is magnetic, highly magnetic but stick 2 H onto it and it fuses into a very strong electron cloud. The neutron / proton / electron affinities are reduced to nearly 0. Hydrogen has very little magnetic attraction, its incredibly tiny. Hydrogen is 4? times bigger than Oxygen with 1/10 the mass... Under static charge the 2H are attracted to the comb, not the oxygen... Re: Magnetic Water 16Nov 16, 2010 10:29 am Awesome stuff there Redman I have received a bit on this but have deleted most of the links. Irrigation Association I think was one that did a run down or feature on it I think. I'll have a look at it more when I have more time and get some of the stuff happening here. Re: Magnetic Water 17Nov 16, 2010 11:41 am At 1st I thought that this was a crock. So I did some tinkering on the weekend with some suprising results. I have a steel water tank connected to the downpipes on a new house. I placed two steel poles into the water tank. One at the south end and the other at the north end of the tank. (The tank is a long slimline type). I then connected the north pole to a 12Volt to 110V inverter and earthed the south pole to MEN connection near the mains board. Finally, I taped 3 super magnets (neodymium) to the downpipe leading to the water tank. For the last 3 days now I have notcied that the water pressure has increased, the water itself seems clearer and most inportantly, the water level in the tank has hardly changed. I think I am onto something here. Over the next few weeks I am going to vary the position of the super magnets a little to see if this makes a difference. Re: Magnetic Water 18Nov 16, 2010 12:12 pm Can you also start using the tank water on a pot plant and use non magnetised water (?) on another? I am really interested in this I am thinking like Redman that there maybe something else going on but either way it must be associated with the process. It is kind of what the whole run your car on water thing is about. The Joe Cell. A pretty iffy science but one that is getting results. Now we can't have the masses doing that now can we? Re: Magnetic Water 19Nov 16, 2010 1:56 pm Fu, any experience using soft water on plants? I think that the magnets may have a similar effect to water softening. Water softeners actually remove calcium and magnesium salts from the water. Your explanation of what the magnets apparently do to water seems to be that it is softening the water without actually removing the salts. Re: Magnetic Water 20Nov 16, 2010 2:08 pm Um, I'm still not sure that this is for real... Wouldn't a magnet only remove heavy metals from the water, or possibly charge those molecules? I don't see how you could break down water - it is H2O. Change it's structure and you change water. The trace elements suspended in the water may be another story (i.e. mineral water). Water can never be wetter or drier - it is water. You can break it down into minute droplets by forcing it through a series of small holes and make a mist, but it's still water. Maybe I should have paid more attention in Chemistry... Second Time 'Round 18 90372 From what I know about water tanks (I've been working with a client on them for a few years now) is this - The concrete can last a lifetime if they don't crack for some… 2 10523 4 10775 |