Well said Yellow,
& it helps a lot if the SS does something straight away to fix whatever defects there are before further work is done.
Browse Forums Building A New House Re: Porter Davis homes 341Oct 20, 2010 8:48 pm __________________________________________ Built Camberwell 29 with PD - Hand Over was on 22/12/10 http://ssazcamberwell29.blogspot.com/ Re: Porter Davis homes 343Oct 20, 2010 9:28 pm __________________________________________ Built Camberwell 29 with PD - Hand Over was on 22/12/10 http://ssazcamberwell29.blogspot.com/ Re: Porter Davis homes 348Oct 21, 2010 7:17 am Current status: Busy making the house our home Built PD Francis 29 on our 576m2 block at Reflections in Tarneit Reflections Estate Thread Our Build Thread Re: Porter Davis homes 350Oct 21, 2010 10:26 am Initial Deposit 05/09/2010 Tender 21/10/2010 Contract 26/11/2010 Site Start 11 Feb Bricking underway 28/03 Fitout commenced 20/04 PCI 08/07 Settlement 15/07 build Blog http://foxley29.blogspot.com/ Re: Porter Davis homes 354Oct 21, 2010 12:47 pm Current status: Busy making the house our home Built PD Francis 29 on our 576m2 block at Reflections in Tarneit Reflections Estate Thread Our Build Thread Re: Porter Davis homes 356Oct 21, 2010 1:33 pm I think the mistake a lot of people make is they don’t go to Hopetoun before their appointment, there is no way you can pick everything on the day. Our colour appointment lasted about 20 minutes. We sat down with our person she asked what we wanted and we told her. Didn’t need to see anything on the day as it was all decided long before then. I understand the pricing frustration but like I said, we just added everything we wanted and then just removed anything on the day we signed our contract, actually I think our contract appointment went longer than our colour appointment which was good because there was a greater amount of time allocated in our contract appointment anyway. As for electrical, once again, we knew what we wanted and where we wanted it to be, the time spent on electricals was less than the colours. But then again we didn’t add much, just changed positions on a few things so ours was easy anyway. All I can say to anyone yet to have their appointments, do your research! And that goes for everyone, not just people building with PD Current status: Busy making the house our home Built PD Francis 29 on our 576m2 block at Reflections in Tarneit Reflections Estate Thread Our Build Thread Re: Porter Davis homes 357Oct 21, 2010 4:21 pm wizard I think the mistake a lot of people make is they don’t go to Hopetoun before their appointment, there is no way you can pick everything on the day. Our colour appointment lasted about 20 minutes. We sat down with our person she asked what we wanted and we told her. Didn’t need to see anything on the day as it was all decided long before then. I understand the pricing frustration but like I said, we just added everything we wanted and then just removed anything on the day we signed our contract, actually I think our contract appointment went longer than our colour appointment which was good because there was a greater amount of time allocated in our contract appointment anyway. As for electrical, once again, we knew what we wanted and where we wanted it to be, the time spent on electricals was less than the colours. But then again we didn’t add much, just changed positions on a few things so ours was easy anyway. All I can say to anyone yet to have their appointments, do your research! And that goes for everyone, not just people building with PD I can assure you Wizard, our research was well and truly done! You're told to select bricks first. So you get the booklet with the categories, you go to Boral and then choose a couple that you like. You get addresses from their sales staff and spend weekends driving around trying to match lot numbers with actual addresses of the list they give you, and compare this colour brick/roof/gutter/fascia/window/garage colour with that. All this time is spent not knowing whether the category 6 brick you like will cost $1,200 or $12,000. If they gave you a ball park range, you could make an informed judgment. The way it is now, you do all of this leg work, get to tender, freak out at the price, and then have to repeat the process or just throw your hands up an accept it. It's not like you can just copy a display home and keep upgrades under control either coz as you know, standard inclusions and display standard with PD (and some of the other bigs) are WORLDS apart! Building Carlisle Homes "Monaco" @ The Avenue at Casey What's happening?... Handed over July 28, now making it home Follow our progress:: http://destination3977.blogspot.com/ Re: Porter Davis homes 358Oct 21, 2010 5:44 pm Hi to JPZ. Nice to meet you and your family yesterday We managed to get through electrical, but we are changing our minds a bit about colors. We're reviewing these now. Largely, this came about due to the lack of info about what category each brick was, and how much the category upgrades were etc. Even at Hopeton during official selections, they give rough approximate prices only. The explanations posted above about price variations from suppliers etc. are just excuses. Any major builder such as PD would be negotiating prices, and to some extent, setting price lists in agreement for periods of several months. If they don't, then maybe they should be paying me, yellow, barnox and you some big $$$s to sort this stuff out for them. The way the AUD$ is going, I actually expect reductions on any of the imported items (like I'll see that happen). Glad that Robyn mentioned the noggings to you. Our consultant insisted on fitting them where we'd asked for fans to be placed. We have a nagging feeling that we've left out something as well. We were well prepared, and had drawn our own diagrams etc - it still meant that some items were added, moved or changed on the day though. The thing that has annoyed us the most is that our CSC promised to send us plans by email and express post over a week ago. She has since insisted that they have not been completed by the drafting team. But, the plan was available to the electrical consultant at Hopetoun yesterday. So much for customer care. Re: Porter Davis homes 359Oct 21, 2010 8:17 pm GoKangas Hi to JPZ. Nice to meet you and your family yesterday We managed to get through electrical, but we are changing our minds a bit about colors. We're reviewing these now. Largely, this came about due to the lack of info about what category each brick was, and how much the category upgrades were etc. Even at Hopeton during official selections, they give rough approximate prices only. The explanations posted above about price variations from suppliers etc. are just excuses. Any major builder such as PD would be negotiating prices, and to some extent, setting price lists in agreement for periods of several months. If they don't, then maybe they should be paying me, yellow, barnox and you some big $$$s to sort this stuff out for them. The way the AUD$ is going, I actually expect reductions on any of the imported items (like I'll see that happen). Glad that Robyn mentioned the noggings to you. Our consultant insisted on fitting them where we'd asked for fans to be placed. We have a nagging feeling that we've left out something as well. We were well prepared, and had drawn our own diagrams etc - it still meant that some items were added, moved or changed on the day though. The thing that has annoyed us the most is that our CSC promised to send us plans by email and express post over a week ago. She has since insisted that they have not been completed by the drafting team. But, the plan was available to the electrical consultant at Hopetoun yesterday. So much for customer care. Hey Gokangas, Drafting of your final plans isn't necessarily complete prior to selections (we're building with Places (the other other other PD chain ) but still did selections through Hopetoun whilst our electrical plans had the right shape its just that a shape with minimal adjustments from a base design. Drafting would only be considered complete once the whole lot was done, engineering for any structural changes, roof truss design, and construction measurements. TBH there is a lot more to it than just simply changing a drawing. Equally consider what promises your CSC can make vs what is actually happening in terms of the drafting teams workload. My advice fwiw, is to keep in contact with your CSC to keep you in their mind as something to follow up on. The average person can only keep track of 5 or so things at any one time, so make sure you're in their top five, with what contact you have always remember its another person on the other end of the phone/email and remember someone is always more likely to go out of their way to help you if you have a positive relationship with them, that if they just consider you the #1 pita. Yes its frustrating when things don't happen the way you expect, especially when you're waiting on something that wasn't delivered on time. Look at us, our kitchen was MIA for 3 Looooooooooooooooooooooong weeks but it finally arrived today. Showing a little bit of understanding can go a long way in our experience, and its a good opportunity to move forward, rather than complaining that they haven't delivered try to work out when they realistically can so you don't get disappointed again due to being offered an unrealistic time line just to placate you. That said there is a time and circumstance for becoming the #1 pita, but why play that card unless you need to? The cynical approach is also to consider that while for the vast majority of the buyers this is a HUGE undertaking and a step into the unknown, for them its just another day in the office and you're just one of the several clients their dealing with at any one time, so balancing their workload whilst (hopefully) trying to get a good outcome for each client individual, but i'm sure anyone can attest or draw from their own life experience at times everyone makes compromises to achieve something, its making sure your not always the one at losing end of those that is the difficult part. Just a few thoughts now we're nearing the end of this journey ourselves, take it as its offered or ignore it as you will. Hope it doesn't sound tooo holier than thou Our Build - Places Fairhaven 23+ - https://forum.homeone.com.au/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=28045 Our Landscaping - Belial's Backyard - https://forum.homeone.com.au/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=45375 Re: Porter Davis homes 360Oct 21, 2010 8:47 pm After reading everyone's comments and finally having a chance to write something, Belial has pretty much said what I wanted to say... And YAY for a kitchen dude! Three options 1 Ask the liquidator 2 Find another PD customer and ask the source of their report 3 Pay for new report 3 12182 Ask for references and speak to them. If they are defensive or try to avoid the request, walk. 1 74219 I would never build with Fowler homes. I built with them in 2021 and till date maintenance issues are pending. All their existing trades and businesses don't work with… 14 105129 |