Browse Forums General Discussion Re: suitable toilet - for builder? - ???? 7Sep 04, 2010 11:53 am Bam Im sure that clause would be overriden given the fact that there are tenants within the dwelling. Hire a toilet for the builder - ours is costing $22 per week and the service is $55 whenever we call them Hi Bam, Are you a builder or a home owner? If you are a home owner, why you hire the toilet, not the builder? I thought after sign the building contract, the owner only need to pay the money to build the house. The other issues would handled by the builder, just like my previous building... Re: suitable toilet - for builder? - ???? 8Sep 04, 2010 12:06 pm Im an owner builder If you are going through a builder, than they will organise and pay for the toilet Custom European Cabinets - Melbourne Kitchen Specialist PM for business details as website currently being updated! Our Crazy Owner Builder Journey! Re: suitable toilet - for builder? - ???? 11Sep 04, 2010 5:46 pm Hiring a toilet for $22 per week with $55 for a service calls sound like a small issue in the scheme of things. Regardless of who pays for the hire of the toilet, the Owner will ultimately pay since the builder will include it in their cost buildup. Demolition August 2009, Construction Started September 2009, Completed December 2010 NOT only : suitable toilet - for builder? - ???? 12Sep 05, 2010 11:06 am Casa2 Hiring a toilet for $22 per week with $55 for a service calls sound like a small issue in the scheme of things. Regardless of who pays for the hire of the toilet, the Owner will ultimately pay since the builder will include it in their cost buildup. The contract we sign for a total cost only. For a six month building, it would be 2k. There is only one - two days work done, the builder has raised three issues: * $5285.50 to relocated backyard existing overhead powerline to go underground on contract - Connection of single phase underground power from main supply to meter. The power line over the backyard is very low ( about 2m above the ground near the existing house). Builders who came to give a quote, almost the first thing they would says was the power need go under ground... but the one, we signed contract with, said he did not noticed it before sign the contact. (I was not there when the builder visit the site.) * 5 days building extension we agreed on the contract, if the builder finished early, the rent will give to the builder. He asked for the 5 days as the tenant's children pulled out the surveyor's peg... * toilet.... Is the builder reasonable? Re: suitable toilet - for builder? - ???? 13Sep 05, 2010 1:44 pm If you've already signed the contract and the price finalised then the toilet is included. I was under the impression that the price had not been set yet. Also, it looks like the contract already specifies underground power "Connection of single phase underground power from main supply to meter". Demolition August 2009, Construction Started September 2009, Completed December 2010 Re: suitable toilet - for builder? - ???? 14Sep 06, 2010 12:29 pm The home owner will pay for it regardless. If they hire it, they pay for it If the builder hire's it they will build the cost into the price of the job, so the homeowner pays for it. If you don't supply one they will charge you for the time it takes to get in their car and drive to a toilet. Haven't you answered your own question by the line on the contract the builder has pointed out?? There is a building on the premises, therefore, by the contract you have to allow access to it. If you choose to make it inaccessible (because you have tenanted it during the time of the build) you have to supply an alternative. Did you make it clear to the builder at the time of negotiating the contract that access to the toilet on site would not be available so they could allow for that in costs? It is not the builder's job to give you tenant his rightful 'quiet enjoyment', it is yours as his landlord Re: suitable toilet - for builder? - ???? 15Sep 06, 2010 6:03 pm The builder needs to UNDERSTAND his own contract, according to his contract it's unreasonable to supply the toilet and electricity. Tenants are not owners. The existing property is a tenant occupied property not an owner occupied property. Quote: Where there is an existing building, the Owner will give to the Builder (at no cost to the Builder) all reasonable necessary access for the use of water, electricity and suitable toilet facilities during the carrying out of the works. The tenant has a contract too. It's not reasonable for the tenant to allow access into their home, It's not reasonable to expect the tenant to have strangers stinking out their home, putting up with *** on the floor, leaving the lid up, using their toilet paper and having the backdoor opening and closing every ten minutes. Is it reasonable for the tenant to pay for the builders electricity? Nope.. would you want your power tripped from overloads whilst your at your PC, cooking, watching TV etc.? . Besides, the tenant must be given at least 7 days notice and only four entries can be carried out in any 12 month period. Hope the builder and his tradies have good bladders. Re: suitable toilet - for builder? - ???? 16Sep 06, 2010 8:12 pm Casa2 Hiring a toilet for $22 per week with $55 for a service calls sound like a small issue in the scheme of things. Regardless of who pays for the hire of the toilet, the Owner will ultimately pay since the builder will include it in their cost buildup. From where did you hire at $22 per day? I cant anything that cheap. Even the service calls are reasonably priced Re: suitable toilet - for builder? - ???? 17Sep 06, 2010 8:39 pm Viking rentals have a limited offer, expires 1st Oct .. $3.30 per day $23.10 per week for the first 3 mths + del/pick-up ..free fortnightly servicing Quote: Must be a NEW CUSTOMER to Viking Rentals Rental price of $3+gst per day lasts for three months from delivery date. After 3 months the rental price reverts to $5.30+gst per day Drop-off ($45+gst) and pick up ($45+gst) are included in the first invoice. Introductory offer can only be accepted once for each customer. Only one toilet can be ordered Introductory offer is only valid for one single building site. http://www.vikingrentals.com.au/offer http://www.vikingrentals.com.au/ Re: suitable toilet - for builder? - ???? 18Sep 06, 2010 8:50 pm The OK, you are missing the point. It is not the builders fault they cannot access the building. I'm sure they don't want to disturb the tenant either. However, as the owner of the build has made access to the existing services unavailable they need to supply an alternative option OR they should have told the contractor access would not be available so the price could be built into a quote. No wonder builders walk away from jobs when people screw them down to the cheapest price, don't fully disclose information and then try to be unreasonable. Do you expect to be paid a fair price for a fair days work or are you happy to go to work and lose money? And do you expect to have to provide a toilet in your workplace at your own expense? Not to even comment on your opinion that all builders are pigs who cannot use a toilet in a reasonable manner...... Re: suitable toilet - for builder? - ???? 19Sep 06, 2010 9:01 pm tjilpi The OK, you are missing the point. It is not the builders fault they cannot access the building. I'm sure they don't want to disturb the tenant either. However, as the owner of the build has made access to the existing services unavailable they need to supply an alternative option OR they should have told the contractor access would not be available so the price could be built into a quote. No wonder builders walk away from jobs when people screw them down to the cheapest price, don't fully disclose information and then try to be unreasonable. Do you expect to be paid a fair price for a fair days work or are you happy to go to work and lose money? And do you expect to have to provide a toilet in your workplace at your own expense? Not to even comment on your opinion that all builders are pigs who cannot use a toilet in a reasonable manner...... I think you're missing the point. Sometimes I do lose money, when it's my mistake. I never said "all builders are pigs", but ...have you ever used a builders toilet? Re: suitable toilet - for builder? - ???? 20Sep 07, 2010 12:01 pm I think the contract is pretty damn clear "Where there is an existing building, the Owner will give to the Builder (at no cost to the Builder) all reasonable necessary access for the use of water, electricity and suitable toilet facilities during the carrying out of the works." If the tenant is to be gauranteed reasonble quiet stay, then the builder cannot be allowed to use his toilet and Electricity. This being the case, you would be persoannly responsible for renting a dunny thereby fullfilling the part of the clasue "(at no cost to the Builder)" Alternatively, if you do not want to get involved with this, you could ask him to arrange for it and cost it in. Suburbia is where the developer bulldozes out the trees, then names the streets after them. Not recommended! The image presented is for a sublevel area. The footings are down deep with a load bearing wall supporting the upper floor level. 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