Browse Forums General Discussion Re: Boundary fencing advice please! 7Aug 01, 2010 9:39 pm Hi all, thanks for the replies. We are in Launceston so its the Tassie fencing act that applies, going to speak to legal aid tomorrow and see what they suggest. Basically what happened this afternoon was this... As all the palings were up but not cut I wanted to nip this in the bud while there was still a chance to get the height to a more suitable level. Fence guy was in the backyard so went and had a chat with him about the invoice, explained that this was not what was agreed to, we have iterated mulitple times that 4ft is not acceptable but neighbours did not want to negotiate so we are not happy to pay half the cost - they can pay the full cost (this is also stated in the fence act). I apologised that he was stuck in the middle but that is the situation, I was never provided with a quote so he cant invoice me for something that we didnt agree to! He said the quote was for a 5.5ft fence, so I asked him where it was 5.5ft and he pointed toward the middle of the fence, I asked if the rear of the fence was 5.5ft and he said no its 4ft. Me - Why is the fence only 4ft there and not 5.5? Fencer - That is because that is what the neighbours wanted. I mentioned that if that is the case then the quote is wrong and its not the work that is being paid for. He timidly agreed but then also said that HAS TO BE 4ft because they have already chopped the side of Mr + Mrs B's fence to that height (their other neighbours)... Noticed Mr B hiding behind the fence and listening in so asked him to come out of hiding and talk about this. Discussed that 4ft is not right, he agreed to 6ft and has renegged on the agreement and we are not going to pay if the fence gets the chop Fencer said that most fences are 5 or 6ft, so I asked why is he allowing this to be 4??? He then backtracked going oh it just needs to stop rabbits really...lol Mr B is a stubborn bugger - started carrying on about what they want and its not fair, I said its not really fair that they change things to suit them and expect us to be on board when they went about it so rudely! Mrs B then came out and starting firing up about how we are just trying to get out of paying for it. I said more than happy to pay if the fence stays at 6ft, but not if its going to be 4! She then said that Mr B should be going to get his rifle - WTF? lol Mrs B then started carrying on that the council said it has to follow the lay of the land, I know it doesn't and passed that information on, she then stomped off muttering about how we are ******* scammers who never were going to pay lol Fencer just stood there, Mr B just stood there, I asked if they were still going to cut the fence down and both said yes, so I said Mr B will have to pay for the lot and he said "I bloody will then" lol After this I went back inside to get my breath, so proud I stayed calm and didn't get fired up (although I really wanted to!!!) Fencer did his chopping, wife came home from work, she said hello to him and fencer went off his chops at her. Swearing and carrying on that he is now out of pocket etc - nearly making her burst into tears... So now the fencer has the shirts as well, seems that its all our fault even though we are now the ones stuck with a tiny fence! Fencer guy was saying this should of all been sorted before he started, I said it was until you told me that the fence was 4ft at the back! Fencer guy should of stopped when we first brought up the height problem but he kept going even though I spoke to him multiple times about us not being happy. So not sure why he has the evils with us but he basically was that mad you could hear the shake in his voice! Hmmmm such a shocker way to end the afternoon... DW and I have discussed this all night on what to do, we are thinking we dont want fence man to be out of pocket as its not his fault, but we dont want neighbours having the satisfaction of thinking they have won.... Legalaid will be getting a call first thing tomorrow, to see what is the best path to follow.... In the meantime we have thought about putting up a shed which can house the bbq and stuff, will paint the back of it bright pink or something and this will solve the short fence issue along with having the last laugh!! Re: Boundary fencing advice please! 8Aug 01, 2010 9:42 pm Oh and elastic - good shrubs is another one we are thinking of, need something that grows quick so they dont see it coming! The neighbours are by the looks of things in the 50's/60's - both are at home all day so have plenty of time to be bitter and stew about things, nose in other peoples business etc. Mr B would not leave the fencing guy alone the hole time, I think this was to ensue that the height did not change. Funny thing was that Mr B slipped off our retaining wall and fell into the mud... Re: Boundary fencing advice please! 9Aug 01, 2010 9:53 pm Usagi Hi all, thanks for the replies. I have discussed this all night on what to do, we are thinking we dont want fence man to be out of pocket as its not his fault He isnt out of pocket, he can charge the full price to the person that ordered the 4ft fence if thats what he has done. I wouldnt be paying a cent. Hope the local neighbour hood vandels dont paint a big f u on the side of your shed facing your neighbour Re: Boundary fencing advice please! 10Aug 01, 2010 11:07 pm In regards to the lay of the land, what a crock of ****. You don't chop a fence with the lay of the land lol. Hmmm, good luck with those neighbours, it sounds like your going to need it, but I like the idea of the shed, maybe with a big spotlight on the side of it on a sensor lol Re: Boundary fencing advice please! 11Aug 02, 2010 1:35 am lol those damn vandals getting up to all sorts of mischief! I think we would of done our lot with those neighbours, no borrowing a cup of sugar, although they may need to eat some to lighten up a bit. Along with a spotlight we could set up some nice speakers with a huge subwoofer and a nice selection of doof to play on special occassions Is there any restrictions on the size of the shed? Ideally would not want to go to council so the grumps dont object. Fence man was/is (but probably was) going to build our other boundary fence...will know tomorrow if he is still keen....lol Hmmm interested to see what legalaid have to suggest! Re: Boundary fencing advice please! 12Aug 02, 2010 1:55 am I'm sorry, but I'm coming at this from a different perspective. I live at the top of a hill and my entire estate is made up of sloping blocks. I would be absolutely devastated if my neighbours wanted to put up a 6ft high wooden fence as it would completely block our vista. We buy these blocks for the views and the feeling of space and openness, you put up a 6ft high wooden fence and what's the point? May as well have stayed on a conventional block. When you have neighbours with a block on higher ground than yours (which is what your picture shows), surely you must expect to be overlooked? There are actually quite a few people around me with 6ft fences to the edge of the house, then the fence drops down to 4ft for the yard to help maintain the sense of open space so it is not unusual. You said that the fence on the other side of your neighbour's block will be 4ft. What is the standard for most of the blocks? What do most people have around there? The rear fence looks like farm fencing, is that the norm? I'm not saying that I am right, I'm just offering a different perspective. I leave you to fend for yourself, figure things out yourself. Terrence Malick Re: Boundary fencing advice please! 13Aug 02, 2010 7:34 am Usagi She then said that Mr B should be going to get his rifle - WTF? lol ...And this is the point where I'd have called the cops. Seriously. You want that on record in case of future trouble. These are not reasonable people. Re: Boundary fencing advice please! 14Aug 02, 2010 11:08 am Usagi, sounds like you're in a difficult situation and I feel for you But my two cents would be to build another fence along that 4ft area, inside your boundary, at 6ft high. Planting shrubs takes time and then the evil neighbours could easily poison them but another fence inside your boundary, I feel would fix them up for sure And if you're feeling for the fencing guy, then pay your half but only for the 6ft part of the fence. Then you can use the rest of your money to get another fence built Good luck, sounds like you need it Re: Boundary fencing advice please! 15Aug 02, 2010 1:11 pm If you were to follow this path, a shed would be better than plants as they can't poison them - also I would be checking with your council as to ALL the requirements and regulations/permits etc that you would need before building it to ensure that you are allowed to build it etc etc so that if the neighbours complain then you can say it complies with council regulations. Oh, also I agree with what Kek said about calling the police, you could probably even still call them to have it noted down and ask the fencer guy to be a witness. Goodluck with it! 'A bottle of wine contains more philosophy than all the books in the world.' Louis Pasteur Vegie garden: viewtopic.php?f=19&t=27637&start=0 My Backyard Adventure Re: Boundary fencing advice please! 16Aug 07, 2010 12:56 am Mate , show some mercy to the neighbors and pay half of every fence pale that is 5.5ft and higher.This is according to the agreement that i see in your posts. I mean 5.5, 5.75 or 6ft, fencers are shadey* anyway. Divide up the percentage of your 1/2 paid fence compared to the whole fence and pay it.I know in the future that you will get greater satisfaction and justification this way than any other way, and that the neighbors modification was stupid(and without consent) so they forfeit any agreement on the modified part. 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