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Browse Forums DIY, Home Maintenance & Repair Re: Any hints for window cleaning? 26Jul 29, 2010 4:57 pm royalblue Ed for what its worth... I've thought a bit about this suggestion that d/w liquid is corrosive to aluminium etc. Here's my theory. Dish wash liquid is basically a good surfactant, and helps to emulsify soils and oils. It also acts as a lubricant to the squeegy in professional cleaning of windows. The thing is, as they apply the cleaning solution to the window and then squeegy it off, it accumulates along the lower lip/edge of the glass and aluminium frame. This may leave a concentration of detergent in this position, which may remain as a hygroscopic residue. So my thinking is, its NOT a chemical effect of causing corrosion, but that the residues may tend to attract and hold moisture along the frames, which produces a corrosive effect. I'm happy to be shown otherwise, but that's my best guess. Ash. Maybe Ash, also the edges of powdercoated profiles have the thinnest coatings due to the electrostatic coating methods, in fact in some lighter colours where the coating is fine, you can almost see through to metal at edges. Ed "ECOECO" At 'EcoEco', we design windows, we design the best windows, we do it for you, so that when you’re happy we are happy. Tel. 1800 326 326 Re: Any hints for window cleaning? 27Jul 29, 2010 9:39 pm ed @ EcoClassic You should never clean glass with a razor blade and steel wool... especially toughened glass, it will certainly scratch the glass as it picks up the "fines" deposited in the toughening process. Plenty of info in the last 5 years if you research it. This is the biggest complaint to builders, and it's caused by cleaning. Using a blade or steel wool will scratch if not used properly, it will most certainly scratch any glass that has a laminate or is toughened like you say, but to say it scratches all glass is not entirely true. A sharp, small blade that is used in one direction and sparingly will not cause damage, obviously making sure that you aren't dragging debris across the glass surface. As for builders, at least the few builders cleans up I have done in the past, they need to take better care of their glass during construction, just not relying on window cleaners to remove render or whatever else they let the other workers get on the glass. I once turned up to quote a builders clean up on a house that used Viridian Comfort Plus glass inside wooden frames. The painters had not masked any of the glass and it had 2-3cm of paint around the edges of the glass, there is no way to remove that and leave the glass in tact! Re: Any hints for window cleaning? 28Jul 30, 2010 8:07 am viewmore ed @ EcoClassic You should never clean glass with a razor blade and steel wool... especially toughened glass, it will certainly scratch the glass as it picks up the "fines" deposited in the toughening process. Plenty of info in the last 5 years if you research it. This is the biggest complaint to builders, and it's caused by cleaning. Using a blade or steel wool will scratch if not used properly, it will most certainly scratch any glass that has a laminate or is toughened like you say, but to say it scratches all glass is not entirely true. A sharp, small blade that is used in one direction and sparingly will not cause damage, obviously making sure that you aren't dragging debris across the glass surface. As for builders, at least the few builders cleans up I have done in the past, they need to take better care of their glass during construction, just not relying on window cleaners to remove render or whatever else they let the other workers get on the glass. I once turned up to quote a builders clean up on a house that used Viridian Comfort Plus glass inside wooden frames. The painters had not masked any of the glass and it had 2-3cm of paint around the edges of the glass, there is no way to remove that and leave the glass in tact! I agree... no blades on toughened. And yes, you can use a blade on clear float, with a new blade and lots of care. And yes, Low-e coatings (one side) are impossible to clean. Ed "ECOECO" At 'EcoEco', we design windows, we design the best windows, we do it for you, so that when you’re happy we are happy. Tel. 1800 326 326 Re: Any hints for window cleaning? 29Jul 30, 2010 9:03 am Here is the reply from Interpon (owns Courtaulds, Dulux, Akzo Nobel, etc.). Quote: We normally recommend automotive detergents as these are specifically designed to be applied over a coated surfaces. The key issue is to ensure the detergent used is "pH neutral" and the cleaned area is thoroughly rinsed with fresh water after cleaning. We would recommend that the cleaner you propose to use checked to ensure its is "pH neutral", diluted and evaluated on a section prior to cleaning or maintaining a larger powder coated section. Note
Ed "ECOECO" At 'EcoEco', we design windows, we design the best windows, we do it for you, so that when you’re happy we are happy. Tel. 1800 326 326 Re: Any hints for window cleaning? 30Jul 30, 2010 3:52 pm homeonline 1. Ensure that the cleaning direction is only one way. I read somewhere (can't remember where) that you should clean each side of the window in a different direction (eg, inside up and down and outside left and right), that way, if you end up with streaks, you know which side of the window to re-wash Re: Any hints for window cleaning? 31Jul 30, 2010 4:04 pm I use Enjo products when cleaning my windows. They have a window cleaning head that has a fibre on one side and squeegy (sp?) on the other side so you clean with the fibre and remove most of the water with the squeegy and then I completely dry it with a seperate microfibre cloth and haven't had any issues with streak marks Re: Any hints for window cleaning? 32Aug 01, 2010 3:48 pm Dishwashing liquid vs Car wash - My tender hands prefer car wash. The dishwashing liquid (even for sensitive hands) dry my hands out in minutes, but the car wash has not effected them. Sorry, no scientific theory attached. Re: Any hints for window cleaning? 36Aug 26, 2010 11:25 pm I just use a damp cloth (just water to make it damp) and then a dry cloth. It will come up perfect. If the window is really grubby, then a go over with some vinegar in water then the above procedure. Re: Any hints for window cleaning? 37Aug 31, 2010 8:48 pm I have detailed many cars in the past including some show cars. Best I have found for quick, streak free cleen is Metholated Spirits from a spray bottle and newspaper. Give it a shot and you won't look back. Re: Any hints for window cleaning? 38Sep 01, 2010 12:57 pm Tornado_ALIVE I have detailed many cars in the past including some show cars. Best I have found for quick, streak free cleen is Metholated Spirits from a spray bottle and newspaper. Give it a shot and you won't look back. I just heard this tip from a friend today. Do you diluate the metho with water though? Renovating our 1970s home We have a new build and need to clean bricks around a newly constructed deck. Need advice about whether to clean bricks with acid prior to oiling the deck, or should we… 0 2580 No, I even have sections of narrowness where the tiles won't slide up any further. When I manage some spare time, I might play around with the first DIY part of my… 7 4922 |