Browse Forums General Discussion Re: Link or access to Australian Standards for building etc 2Apr 08, 2010 9:15 am Some people don't have time to do the job right the first time, but seem to have plenty of time to fix their mistakes. Build Thread Re: Link or access to Australian Standards for building etc 4Apr 10, 2010 10:38 am View our blog at: http://room4acubby.blogspot.com/ Re: Link or access to Australian Standards for building etc 9Apr 10, 2010 2:21 pm There is a group lobbying for "freeing" the standards. Can't see that happening any time soon, though You can view most of the standards online for free in your local library. However, even they don't have access to all of them! Not sure if that depends on each library, or is the same for all of them. Oh yeah, they are definitely "copyright". My signature is distracting people from my wise posts ... Re: Link or access to Australian Standards for building etc 10Apr 10, 2010 2:36 pm I've heard of some behind the scenes conflict within the Standards processes of updating Standards. This requires committees of various experts in the field of each Standard to work together when Standards are to be updated. I heard that one committee looking at updating a certain Standard were beiong told they had to come up with $10k or something to make it happen! The Standard organisation were a not-for-profit organisation. Not sure about that now! Ash. Re: Link or access to Australian Standards for building etc 11Apr 10, 2010 10:50 pm Purple Patch Try here http://www.buildingcommission.com.au/re ... IDE_07.pdf I successfully used the 2007 S&T to have a few issues resolved by my builder. The Guide to Standards & Tolerances is published by the Victorian Building Commission. It is referred to by builders and their clients in resolving domestic building disputes in Victoria. It is intended to be used as a convenient reference to the minimum quality of building work expected for non-regulated aspects of domestic building construction. Whilst it is published by Victoria my belief is that other states use it also. Cheers PP Thankyou. So what happens to somebody in QLD? Re: Link or access to Australian Standards for building etc 12Apr 11, 2010 12:51 am Incidental to my past career, I have chaired working parties that developed/modified Australian Standards. They ARE copyright and I deplore that fact. I believe that they should be readily available and published in full on the net. Of course, this would need extra government funding. However, with our governments getting into all sorts of areas that they should stay out of, this is one service that is fundamental and should be wholly supported - not on a pay-to-know basis. One interesting aspect (that I don't know the answer to) just occurred to me while typing this reply:- Ignorance of the law is no excuse - we all know that. Therefore, legislation is in the public domain and generally readily available to read, copy etc. But some legislation calls up Australian Standards so that the standard forms part of the legislation. But you have to pay to buy a copy of the standard. There seems to me to be a fundamental paradox here. Hopefully, someone can enlighten me...... Cheers zeke Re: Link or access to Australian Standards for building etc 13Apr 11, 2010 7:52 am Lex Oh yeah, they are definitely "copyright". They lawyer I was referring to, who said we could copy or use any part of a standard was a commercial lawyer specialising in patents and trademarks. He was reviewing our terms of trade at the time. Ed "ECOECO" At 'EcoEco', we design windows, we design the best windows, we do it for you, so that when you’re happy we are happy. Tel. 1800 326 326 Re: Link or access to Australian Standards for building etc 14Apr 11, 2010 8:24 am zeke One interesting aspect (that I don't know the answer to) just occurred to me while typing this reply:- Ignorance of the law is no excuse - we all know that. Therefore, legislation is in the public domain and generally readily available to read, copy etc. But some legislation calls up Australian Standards so that the standard forms part of the legislation. But you have to pay to buy a copy of the standard. There seems to me to be a fundamental paradox here. Zeke, That is a very good point and one that I have not thought about. Most of the codes that I deal with are not legislated requirements and are more guides, however the codes referred to in the BCA are mandatory. This is an extremely good argument for having them freely available. You may even be swaying me on making the other codes available, if only to eliminate the profit insentives of those who publish them and put them back in the public domain. Unfortunately this is a worldwide phenomenon. In the UK some of the Health and Safety Standards are freely available however British Standards are not freely available. Ed, I would not want to be the one to test copyright laws by reproducing full copies of Australian Standards, the method that SAI global use to limit the use of electronic versions of their pdf files can easily be fixed View our blog at: http://room4acubby.blogspot.com/ For reference, this is the Austlii reference. My take on this is, that they would be breaking the law denying access to a homeowner in Victoria, or their agent from having… 1 9375 Building Standards; Getting It Right! Don't think they are designed for double brick. 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