Browse Forums Owner Builder Forum Re: How much do you save 4Mar 15, 2010 1:44 pm View our story on here in photo form: http://simonandrachshouse.posterous.com/ Re: How much do you save 6Mar 15, 2010 9:45 pm Plans Done Feb 2010 Permit Done 23 April. Set out Done. Scrape and Excavations Done. Footings Done May 10th. Now, to find a brickie.Got one! Sub-floor bricks & Garage Done - 13th June Sub-floor installed 28 June (?) Re: How much do you save 7Mar 17, 2010 10:09 pm Having recently completed being an Owner Builder in the true meaning (only having to engage a Plumber and Electrician) I saved heeps and heeps. I haven't added up all the dockets but my cost is roughly around $200k. By way of a comparison the neighbour across the road had his house (smaller than mine) built (by a Builder) at the same time as me, he parted out with $376k and he had hastles with the Builder. I have a laugh to myself everytime I hear or read that someone is going to Owner Build and in the next breath they say subbies for everything. They're not Owner Builders they're Project Managers, they probably have lots of hastlles and I doubt if they save much $ at all. Re: How much do you save 8Mar 18, 2010 12:15 am We are the owner builders (to be when the council come to the party!) and whilst we are not actually doing any of the hard yakka in terms of the physical stuff I am doing a plenty in other areas. After all builders dont physically lay every brick and mortar in their homes so I kind of see it in the same vein. I wish I had the skills to do more stuff and yes we could probably save more money if I could lay bricks and build roofs etc but I cant and I am quite happy to pay to ensure I have control over what I get and how I get and how it gets done. Personally I think owner building is a big statements that caters for a wide variety of people. I have just gotten on this roller coaster and whilst I find it frustrating their is enormous satisfaction ... even in the project management! Re: How much do you save 9Mar 18, 2010 9:04 am Rod1949 Having recently completed being an Owner Builder in the true meaning (only having to engage a Plumber and Electrician) I saved heeps and heeps. I haven't added up all the dockets but my cost is roughly around $200k. By way of a comparison the neighbour across the road had his house (smaller than mine) built (by a Builder) at the same time as me, he parted out with $376k and he had hastles with the Builder. I have a laugh to myself everytime I hear or read that someone is going to Owner Build and in the next breath they say subbies for everything. They're not Owner Builders they're Project Managers, they probably have lots of hastlles and I doubt if they save much $ at all. Everyone's situation is different, but in our case, we can earn a lot more than what we would save by laying the bricks ourselves for example. By the time we do a short course and the amount of time it would take us to lay the bricks and all, not to mention the quality of work compared to a bricklayer with years and years of experience. It would simply not be worth it. However, if you didn't have a job and instead would have just been sitting at home doing nothing, I guess it would be worth giving it a go. Re: How much do you save 10Mar 18, 2010 9:34 am hiccup Everyone's situation is different, but in our case, we can earn a lot more than what we would save by laying the bricks ourselves for example. By the time we do a short course and the amount of time it would take us to lay the bricks and all, not to mention the quality of work compared to a bricklayer with years and years of experience. It would simply not be worth it. So what are you going on about? If you're earning sqwilloins why would you bother being an OB or a pretent one. Wouldn't you just get a builder Re: How much do you save 11Mar 18, 2010 9:41 am A builder is someone who organizes others to build and house and manages them as well as other many other issues. A builder is not a tradesperson. This is the first thing they drum into you when I did my Cet IV in building. The first house I built with my father. I spent my spare time organizing and pricing material which although he is great with his hands he doesn't like to spend time sourcing material, it was a great team. Re: How much do you save 12Mar 18, 2010 9:45 am Rod1949 Having recently completed being an Owner Builder in the true meaning (only having to engage a Plumber and Electrician) I saved heeps and heeps. I haven't added up all the dockets but my cost is roughly around $200k. By way of a comparison the neighbour across the road had his house (smaller than mine) built (by a Builder) at the same time as me, he parted out with $376k and he had hastles with the Builder. I have a laugh to myself everytime I hear or read that someone is going to Owner Build and in the next breath they say subbies for everything. They're not Owner Builders they're Project Managers, they probably have lots of hastlles and I doubt if they save much $ at all. @ Rod. An owner builder is by definition the person who owns the property taking on the role of the builder and therefore the liability to make sure it is constructed to the required standards and specifications. It doesn't mean that you have to literally build the whole lot yourself. Even registered builders use sub contractors. Your username indicates that maybe you are a little older and possibly have a little more time on your hands to be able to spend getting your hands dirty, and good luck to you. However it certainly doesn't diminish the efforts any OB puts into organising the construction of their home. If anything it probably lessens the stress felt as all you are doing is organising yourself. I'm a carpenter so will be fairly hands on with my OB, however I know enough about construction to realise that I'm better of going to work and doing what I'm good at, and paying another tradesman that is good at what he does to work on my place. @ to the OP, yes I am hoping to save money on my house. As the others have said, My wife and I have a budget and have to work within that. However the house we will end up with (not to mention the quality of fittings) will far exceed what we could have got by going through a builder. I guess we really have just maximised our bang for our buck. Accessible Carpentry & Cabinets accessiblecarpentry@gmail.com accessiblecarpentry.com.au https://www.facebook.com/pages/Accessible-Carpentry-Cabinets/583314911709039 Re: How much do you save 13Mar 18, 2010 10:10 am Yep fair point Chippy. I guess sometimes we see things from one angle only. And yes I'm a chippy too and from a time when one was/is very multi skilled. And yep I still have to work for a living. Re: How much do you save 14Mar 18, 2010 10:23 am Rod1949 hiccup Everyone's situation is different, but in our case, we can earn a lot more than what we would save by laying the bricks ourselves for example. By the time we do a short course and the amount of time it would take us to lay the bricks and all, not to mention the quality of work compared to a bricklayer with years and years of experience. It would simply not be worth it. So what are you going on about? If you're earning sqwilloins why would you bother being an OB or a pretent one. Wouldn't you just get a builder I never said I was earning sqwilloins. And even if I was I would still not get a large builder but would instead still be an Owner Builder. For example, Why pay $700,000 for a $500,000 house when you can have a $500,000 house for $500,000? It's just silly Re: How much do you save 15Mar 18, 2010 11:29 am Rod1949 Yep fair point Chippy. I guess sometimes we see things from one angle only. And yes I'm a chippy too and from a time when one was/is very multi skilled. And yep I still have to work for a living. I think most chippies are fairly versatile. After all we often get to see construction from start to finish, so we get to see what most trades do and pick up skills. That's why chippies make the best builders! (just don't tell the other trades that) But I'm happy to leave the Grano and bricklaying (though I'll check the set out) plastering , both licensed trades and the painting (I hate painting) to the experts. Sure I could do it but it would take twice as long and not be as good so I'm happy to get someone in to do it. Builders typically charge 20-30% margin on building. They buy materials cheaper than an OB can, however as materials only make up half the cost of a building (must check the actual %) there is still a good saving to be had. The down side is the stress and build time. Expect it to take longer (sometimes much longer) and be quite stressfull. But when you hopefully get what you want, it's all worth it. Accessible Carpentry & Cabinets accessiblecarpentry@gmail.com accessiblecarpentry.com.au https://www.facebook.com/pages/Accessible-Carpentry-Cabinets/583314911709039 Re: How much do you save 16Mar 18, 2010 12:13 pm chippy ...and the painting (I hate painting) Bugger me! The same here I hate brush painting and it stems from my first 3 months as an apprentice where I was in the joinery shop and all I did was prime coat every bit of joinery work that was required to be primed before it left the shop. I don't mind spray painting though... can get some great finishes. Re: How much do you save 17Mar 19, 2010 8:07 am Our OB is only small but at the end of the day, it's your blood, sweat & tears which go into it which is very rewarding. Yes as Bam said, you learn things & also you know things have been done correctly, your not going to do a crappy job on your own house. On our place, we could have it all done for us, I'm guessing with a lot less headaches, faster & cost us approx an additional 30%, so yes a significant saving there. But we are finding it extremley difficult to find tradies to quote us, especially plumbers. It does take time but patience is a virtue, as they say. It will all be worth it in the end. "A dream you dream alone is only a dream. A dream you dream together is reality" -John Lennon Re: How much do you save 18Mar 19, 2010 11:38 am Hi SerialStyler, If your having trouble finding a plumber, i can see if mine is interested. He is a mate i grew up with, and does a great job. Our plumbing inspection passed first go without so much as a raised eyelid. View our story on here in photo form: http://simonandrachshouse.posterous.com/ I've just had a look at the website. The company are just building broker's. There are plenty of similar companies that basically draw your plans (they own them so you… 8 11234 7 12165 I thought this would be a popular question but I haven't been able to find any similar posts. Perhaps I'm wording my searches wrong? When you have car insurance and the… 0 6697 |