Browse Forums Bathrooms and Laundry 1 Mar 12, 2010 2:13 pm Hi, love this site and can't seem to find what I want so I guess I'll have to ask!! Having the bathroom renovated and wanted to go for tiled floor right into the shower. It's on a concrete slab. At present there is a polymarble tray that I want taken out and tiled in there instead. The shower is a regular square 900x900 in a corner with bath butting up on one side and with the front side the only open access. Shower screen will be frameless. The builder says that the concrete slab would have to be ground down (messy big job) to allow for the necessary fall.....so it can't really be done..and better to go for another preformed tray ( yuk). ..but I'm pretty sure you can place a raised hob/curb at the front and concrete the inside of that instead, with the fall towards the drain hole, line it with a membrane(?) and then that can be tiled over the same as the rest of the floor. (?) Is this true? I also thought I saw that instead of a bulky concrete hob you can use a new metal angle strip thing. Anyone have any advice...or a way to do this please? Thanks Re: Tiled shower recess help 2Mar 12, 2010 3:03 pm The floor will be build up with sand and cement to allow the tiler to get a fall to the wastes. There is no issue in tiling the floor. You can have a hob or we generally step down the floor under the glass 10-15mm then fall to a watse. A rather standard thing that is done. Cheers Re: Tiled shower recess help 3Mar 12, 2010 3:16 pm Thank-you so much zedman.... The 'hob' idea and backfill was to address the fall of the floor for the shower area rather than cut into the concrete slab...which the builder claimed was a 'big job'....so to 'step down' instead...does that mean the non shower area floor is built up? The slab is same height/level for entire bathroom at present. Thanks again. Re: Tiled shower recess help 4Mar 12, 2010 4:48 pm You can easily install a tiled hob and fall to a waste from there, but you can also have a stepless base. It's not really a "big job" but it is messy. Basically it means someone will have to jackhammer out concrete in the shower base to get the depth required to be able to screed it to fall to a waste. I've seen plenty of concretors stuff up and install the shower setdown in the slab in the wrong spot. When that happens they have to come back and jack out the concrete so the shower is in the correct spot - no different to what you are saying. Blog is now up - http://www.jbdave.blogspot.com/ Re: Tiled shower recess help 5Mar 13, 2010 8:42 am Thanks dave.....the 'big job' was in relation to the big mess I think hahaha. Jackhammering down into the slab is not an option I don't think....so the tiled hob will be the go. How high ( and wide ) does the hob have to be? ...and the fall to the waste which is at the back of the 900x900 recess? Frameless glass (stegbar) shower will sit on/down to it. Re: Tiled shower recess help 6Mar 16, 2010 10:36 am The tiler will need to screed the entire floor. They set there high points and low points and screed accordingly. There is no need to jackhammer into the slab. Cheers Charlie Re: Tiled shower recess help 7Mar 19, 2010 5:03 pm We have this and I would really prefer having a normal shower. First, I'm always afraid of a leak (we bought the house like this) and the wood may decay. Second, it is so much harder to clean and you have to step into the shower. If you try to shower your kids you'll get wet. I'm really in favor of normal shower basins you put in like a bath tube because they are practical and trouble free. Re: Tiled shower recess help 8Mar 21, 2010 10:57 am The whole floor Zedman?. ..I was hoping the curb would do away with that...just having to screed from the inside of the curb falling to the waste. The doorway is in front of the shower recess. Alokin - we are taking out the poly marble tray and tiling there instead....I think (hoping) it will make the room look bigger and moderner. You still have to 'step' over into a tray.. Like this (from others I have noted on this site - hope it's ok to show them)... Like ⋅ Add a comment ⋅ Pin to Ideaboard ⋅ Like ⋅ Add a comment ⋅ Pin to Ideaboard ⋅ Re: Tiled shower recess help 9Mar 24, 2010 10:13 am It might depend where you're located - practices are a bit different from state to state. Here, we don't usually have a floor waste, so there's no fall on the bathroom floor at all. If the shower is constructed as per the photos you posted, then you just have a fall to the drain within the shower. In some states, all wet areas have a floor waste. If you're on a slab and it's all done properly, there's no reason why you should have any leaks. Most showers are done this way in Melbourne now. Polymarble trays are a bit outdated, although maybe cheaper to do. Talk to your tiler about having the shower floor tiles laid diagonally as in the first pic, or cut on the diagonal - you get a more even fall that way. Re: Tiled shower recess help 10Mar 28, 2010 4:22 pm Thanks kek....I agree on the poly marble tray... In Victoria..and the slab is pre-existing as it's a reno.. Have discussed it with carpenter/bathroom guy and he says the tiled 'curb' and recess thing with the fall screeded to the waste just within the recess is ok to do...so THAT's a bonus!! Thanks for the advice Re: Tiled shower recess help 11Apr 09, 2010 7:58 pm We had the tiles continue through the shower and it looks awesome, however we are on a timber sub floor so could cut out the base. Surely there is someone thta can cut concrete and you can drop your base down to allow the tiler to put his slurry in to get the required fall you need. For the sake of a few hundred bucks to get the slab cut it may well be worth it, you would only need to go down say 20mm Re: Tiled shower recess help 12Apr 15, 2010 8:34 pm Hey Notsubtle, the photos you have shown have a clear hob arolund which means you only need to screed the recess. However what i believe zed was talking about is the "Real" integrated shower recess. I must admit i was thinkig along the same lines, as in your high end bathrooms, interated recess is common, but not with a hob. The whole idea is to do away with the hob, so that the tiles run seamlessly into the shower recess. In order todo this, the whole bathroom floor needs to be built up. Not a massive expense, considering the end result. Adrien No, I even have sections of narrowness where the tiles won't slide up any further. When I manage some spare time, I might play around with the first DIY part of my… 7 4938 Thank you so much. We ended going with the terrain that’s part of our brick. 2 2545 |