Browse Forums General Discussion Re: Wet areas - Villaboard or Water resistant plasterboard? 8Mar 03, 2010 4:09 pm Landscape Design & Construction http://cherub.squarespace.com/ Re: Wet areas - Villaboard or Water resistant plasterboard? 11Mar 05, 2010 8:46 pm We've just had both bathrooms wet sealed & once all the tiling has been finished, I've been told about a product that's sprayed over tiles & glass screens to keep them clean & grime free. It's not a do it yourself job, someone comes & does it. Definately going to look into this Jazz Life is like a lolly, suck it and see Re: Wet areas - Villaboard or Water resistant plasterboard? 12May 16, 2014 9:21 am Hi I have rang Gyprock and James Hardie to find out about the products... Since showers is the most important wet area I asked if the two products are suitable: *Aquacheck (wet area) plasterboard 10mm is suitable for showers but needs a waterproof sealer before tiling. *Villaboard 6mm is suitable for showers and does not require a sealer before tiling. BOTH Products are manufactured for life. -this is what they told me. also- Villaboard has better impact resistance Wet area plasterboard is easier to work with (my own experience) can use Wet area plasterboard on ceilings (found this info on gyprock website) Everyone raves on about Villaboard- but wet area plasterboard has to meet to the same standards as villaboard anyway.... so which one are you going to choose??? note: obviously wet area plasterboard does not need sealer on the other bathroom walls; just the shower before tiling Can buy a tub of wetareas joint compound for to use on both products- (found hard to sand!) Re: Wet areas - Villaboard or Water resistant plasterboard? 13May 16, 2014 1:05 pm borg The finish (on Villa) if you dont tile all the way to the celing isnt as good as plaster board if you just paint it. WR is better for painting Why exactly do you say that? I always use villaboard and find the finish is good. A flat surface is a flat surface when it comes to painting imho. Re: Wet areas - Villaboard or Water resistant plasterboard? 14May 16, 2014 1:14 pm You may be one of the lucky ones that has received a good batch qebtel. We have had some in the past that has a few roller marks when it has been pressed and rolled plus other imperfections that you just don't seem to get with the plasterboard. Mind you a quick coat of finish plaster to the affected area and decent painting usually solves the problem. I still prefer Villaboard for wet areas though. Stewie Re: Wet areas - Villaboard or Water resistant plasterboard? 15May 16, 2014 2:51 pm Also on the call to gyprock, the representative tells me aquacheck (wet areas) plasterboard is equal to performance to CeminSeal Wallboard (fibre cement board) that is their version of the James Hardie product of Villaboard. If you want, just call them- its only charged at a local call and you get answered straight away. You can only go off the building standards and what the company says- or do your own proper experiment (but who has the time for that??), so when people say Villaboard is better what evidence do they have??? wet area plasterboard is alot easier work with and cut- esp thin strips and power points cut outs. you only need a utility knife, and a keyhole saw. Re: Wet areas - Villaboard or Water resistant plasterboard? 16May 16, 2014 6:07 pm Wet area plasterboard perform just as well as villaboard IF the waterproofing holds up. If the waterproofing on villaboard gets damage, its less of an issue. Villaboard also require proofing. I just used wet area plasterboard in my own bathroom. My plasterers didn't want to work with villaboard. And if I got my carpenter to install the villaboard, the Plasterers will still need to work on it to get the joins smooth so the waterproofing cane be applied (plasterboard sheets are larger) Fingers cross I don't regret my decision. In my old house I renovated and installed villaboard myself in the shower area, I had to pack it out so the villaboard was flush with the thicker plasterboard. It wasn't super flush but didn't matter as I got the tiler to tile over the joins. I can't comment if villaboard doesn't paint well as I tiled all walls go the ceiling. But I painted cement sheeting before and its ok. So villaboard > wet area plasterboard. Re: Wet areas - Villaboard or Water resistant plasterboard? 17May 16, 2014 11:34 pm JB1; Most waterproofing membrane/sealer products will come with a warranty of around ten years that includes compensation for damage if well proven. (and have the receipt!) If correctly applied, it should last for much, much longer. most of the labels on these products include the word permanent. Also note; the tile adhesive and grout is waterproof in showers. JB1 Fingers cross I don't regret my decision. Relax, Can you now sleep easy? Re: Wet areas - Villaboard or Water resistant plasterboard? 18May 17, 2014 9:11 pm I have no doubt that the membrane itself will last 25 or 50 years, but am worried about damage to the membrane by movement, damage by the tilers etc. I wish anybody good luck in claiming warranty due to the product failing. They will no doubt blame the installation an/or other factors. To blame the product would mean you have to rip up the tiles which will then damage the waterproofing, so you could never prove the product was defective- catch 22. Grout is NOT waterproof and is not designed to be. That is what the membrane and puddle flange is for. Also I also believe that the glue shouldn't be waterproof but porous. This allows the water under the tiles to flow down to the drain via the puddle flange. In theory, water resistant plasterboard should perform as well as cement based plasterboard but when the waterproofing fails, cement sheet won't be damaged. Not really an issue while under warranty if you used a builder as its their responsibility. However as I owner built, that's why I'm hoping for the best and crossing my fingers Re: Wet areas - Villaboard or Water resistant plasterboard? 19May 18, 2014 8:18 am JB1 Grout is NOT waterproof and is not designed to be. That is what the membrane and puddle flange is for. You can add a Grout Additive that Increases water resistance http://www.bunnings.com.au/adhesive-dav ... 5_p6657144 You can use a Shower sealent over the grout http://www.bunnings.com.au/sealant-show ... n_p1585225 http://www.bunnings.com.au/tile-guard-s ... t_p6820110 couldn't find tile adhesive esp wet area though this one is for outdoor areas, better than nothing http://www.bunnings.com.au/dunlop-6-7kg ... t_p6829507 Also the waterproof Membrane is for tiling over. it designed to leave a tough suitable surface. http://www.bunnings.com.au/gripset-bett ... e_p0960169 look mate if your that worried just keep covering the shower base with sealant maybe every 5 years or so... http://www.bunnings.com.au/sealant-show ... n_p1585225 http://www.bunnings.com.au/sealant-show ... r_p6651334 Re: Wet areas - Villaboard or Water resistant plasterboard? 20May 18, 2014 7:09 pm Yeah I think I should seal the grout. Not only for waterproofing but also keep the grout on the floor tiles cleaner. 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