Browse Forums Landscape & Garden Design Re: How do I kill a eucalyptus tree discretely? 11Feb 26, 2010 12:15 pm @BeatrixKiddo, - The fine is $30,000 @ IkonInteriors - I use a proxy. Also, the council rejected the application because they felt the tree was not yet a significant enough risk to the property. @ Casa2, @Kek et al - When my application was rejected I put it to the council that they should be liable for any further damage caused by the tree. The said that because the tree was on my property, it was therefore my tree and I would be liable. So, I feel like I don't have many options. I can wait for the tree to drop more branches on my neighbour's car (they were cool about it by the way - they would also like the tree removed) or fall onto my house during a storm, or I can kill it and resubmit the application on the grounds the tree is now dead. I know that will probably look suspicious, which is why I really need to know of any undetectable methods for killing it. So far I've heard pool salt (which is apparently undetectable but nothing will ever grow in that spot again) or copper nails (which I've heard conflicting reports on - some people say it works, others say it's a wives tale). Does anyone have any experience with these or any other methods? Re: How do I kill a eucalyptus tree discretely? 12Feb 26, 2010 3:03 pm Roger - if the council says it's on your properly, then you should be able to remove it. I would really get a solicitor involved. They need to specify that if the tree is on your property and you are liable for damage, that you can remove it without permission, or if you need council permission as it is their tree, then they are liable for damage. It's a black and white as that. They are telling you that because they are hoping you'll leave them alone. They won't tell a solicitor that. Also, if you try killing it, there could be more damage if it drops more branches (which is probably when you kill a tree), and this defies the point of you killing it, doesn't it? Stop being angry. Do something that isn't going to bite you in the bum later on. If you kill it, they'll know it's you, and you'll get a fine. Simple as that. Re: How do I kill a eucalyptus tree discretely? 13Feb 26, 2010 3:53 pm roger.winklebury ... will probably look suspicious, which is why I really need to know of any undetectable methods for killing it. Mate the level of advise you have just received from two members here at least is some of the very best you will find in Australia. They are not just average people, they are Horticultural professionals of a high standard of Horticultural education. I would strongly suggest taking the advice. By all means listen to what the neighbours taxi driver has suggested and get a bag of copper nails and pool salt but it is ridiculous to do those things not to mention dangerous. Both for your safety and that of others as well as environmental damage that can be done. Pool salt, very detectable. Poisons easy to locate point of application by a certified arborist. nails will be found and won't come out of the tree. You kill it by those methods and be prepared to shell out the large for it. Their folks will find the cause easy as. Get some legal advice and have the matter sorted in the correct way. If you are a union member often that advice can be accessed for free Re: How do I kill a eucalyptus tree discretely? 14Feb 26, 2010 3:57 pm Fair enough. Thanks for your help. Re: How do I kill a eucalyptus tree discretely? 16Feb 26, 2010 7:18 pm roger.winklebury @ IkonInteriors - I use a proxy. If you think a proxy makes you anonymous then that is your first mistake.. no one is anonymous on the internet. Re: How do I kill a eucalyptus tree discretely? 17Feb 26, 2010 7:34 pm sorry but had to post as my husband and I both work for Council we have two suggestions: 1. Contact Council and find out why it was knocked back? Meeting face to face is best 2. Get a report from a certified arborist regarding the tree 3. If report says the tree is no good resubmit application to Council with letter of support from neighbours 4. AWAIT Councils reply 5. If no my husband suggests going to a Current Affair! Armitage57 Re: How do I kill a eucalyptus tree discretely? 18Feb 27, 2010 1:13 am If an Arborist states that it is diseased and in need of removal - unsafe - then the tree is is a liability. If the council are so dumb to reject an Arborists report then the council needs to get a clue. The council are not scientists or trained professionals so its only their opinion and not their fully qualified and trained assessment they are basing their decision on. One thing to do is report it to the local media. Its a really cheap way of showing everyone what a bunch of goons councils can be. It also might get you the permission to take the tree down without involving a solicitor. If all else fails make sure you have their "fully qualified" assessment (whatever correspondence they send you). Make them do it 3 or 4 times. Then take them to court, make them pay costs! Its just a game, councils are ignorant on most things. Pen pushers! So long as an Arborist hands you a piece of paper that states the tree is doomed and why then you have a case, they don't! Judge to council = Did you asses this tree? Council = no we did not Judge to council = Is the person responsible for rejecting this matter an Arborist? Council = no sir, he is a University graduate trained in social arts and media. Judge = this case is closed. Ruling in favor of complainant. Councils = Monty Python Government = Yes Minister (the documentary) Re: How do I kill a eucalyptus tree discretely? 19Feb 27, 2010 11:30 am As kek mentioned earlier just appeal to the SA version of vcat (victorian civil and adminstrative tribunal) for mediation. Make sure you actually have a certifed arborist report or 2 and go for costs while you are there. Very simple case if what you are saying is true, probably won't cost you anything but time. Most likely won't get anywhere near that far. While you wait cut the branches that are of concern. Re: How do I kill a eucalyptus tree discretely? 20Mar 01, 2010 9:47 pm Interesting reply since I have three degrees and my husband has two. Some very ignorant comments in here...you may have had a bad experience with council but not all Council workers "lean on shovels"!! [url][/url] Redman If an Arborist states that it is diseased and in need of removal - unsafe - then the tree is is a liability. If the council are so dumb to reject an Arborists report then the council needs to get a clue. The council are not scientists or trained professionals so its only their opinion and not their fully qualified and trained assessment they are basing their decision on. One thing to do is report it to the local media. Its a really cheap way of showing everyone what a bunch of goons councils can be. It also might get you the permission to take the tree down without involving a solicitor. If all else fails make sure you have their "fully qualified" assessment (whatever correspondence they send you). Make them do it 3 or 4 times. Then take them to court, make them pay costs! Its just a game, councils are ignorant on most things. Pen pushers! So long as an Arborist hands you a piece of paper that states the tree is doomed and why then you have a case, they don't! Judge to council = Did you asses this tree? Council = no we did not Judge to council = Is the person responsible for rejecting this matter an Arborist? Council = no sir, he is a University graduate trained in social arts and media. Judge = this case is closed. Ruling in favor of complainant. Councils = Monty Python Government = Yes Minister (the documentary) Hello. I just bought a few acres in Habana, Mackay, and my horses seem to love hanging around under this tree. I would like to name the paddock after this tree. Can… 0 9613 |