Browse Forums Building A New House Re: Victoria - Lock-up stage definition? 3Oct 12, 2009 3:04 pm Pfiff Finally making progress again, with a clothesline (yippee) and some much needed little things being attended to over the holidays. 40 C on New Year's eve? We love our a/c! Re: Victoria - Lock-up stage definition? 4Oct 12, 2009 5:18 pm Fiffaro I'm also looking for a better understanding of lock-up stage. We've been sent an invoice, despite having no glass in the bi-fold doors, or any locking mechanism on them. I look at the definitions pretty loosely. Pay when your comfortable the work has been done to your satisfaction. Technically lockup is just that but I would probably insist on them fixing this blow-out first... Our situation is different but I accepted lockup before our bi-folds were installed. We also had a small section of bricks missing on the front porch (as they ran out). But on the other hand the house had all the plaster sheeting installed (which technically is part of fix). As they say, Christmas is coming so if they are happy to progress past a stage I havent been invoiced for to get moving, I am happy to pay an invoice a week earlier than maybe I had to (We were happy with everything else in the stage). Xmas delays will cost us a LOT more.. Re: Victoria - Lock-up stage definition? 6Oct 12, 2009 7:37 pm jcjuice all our windows were smashed at 'lock-up' and it wasnt secure. The builders dont give a crap, you have to pay or they'll whack you with interest fines.... why do you have to pay? Shouldn't the builders insurance cover that? Re: Victoria - Lock-up stage definition? 7Oct 12, 2009 8:12 pm He's the definition of lockup according to PD Quote: Fascia, roof cover, windows and plumbing pipes are installed. Brick veneer cladding is laid. While the bricklayer is on site, works will commence inside the home. This includes wall straightening as well as electrical, heating, alarm and ducted vacuum systems being roughed in. Insulation will be installed. Bath framing and external doors are installed. As soon as the brickwork is complete and the external doors are hung the home is at “lockup stage”. In many cases plastering will commence before lock up is complete. 'A bottle of wine contains more philosophy than all the books in the world.' Louis Pasteur Vegie garden: viewtopic.php?f=19&t=27637&start=0 My Backyard Adventure Re: Victoria - Lock-up stage definition? 8Oct 12, 2009 8:12 pm aaron4erin jcjuice all our windows were smashed at 'lock-up' and it wasnt secure. The builders dont give a crap, you have to pay or they'll whack you with interest fines.... why do you have to pay? Shouldn't the builders insurance cover that? I think they mean pay for lock up invoice 'A bottle of wine contains more philosophy than all the books in the world.' Louis Pasteur Vegie garden: viewtopic.php?f=19&t=27637&start=0 My Backyard Adventure Re: Victoria - Lock-up stage definition? 9Oct 13, 2009 7:21 am Fiffaro We've been sent an invoice, despite having no glass in the bi-fold doors, or any locking mechanism on them. When I inspected with our independent building inspector today, (pre-plaster inspection) we could see the door blowing in the wind and damage has already occurred where it has blown back against the brickwork. They have also had to remove some of the brick work to rectify a slab 'blow-out' that was drawn to their attention when the brick work was only about 30% complete, and which H3nley did not appear to inspect until after the brick work was complete. I have assumed that a door is fixed when the wind can no longer blow it around. Surely it is not fixed until then??? Damage to the door is a separate issue and having locks on the doors doesn't seem to have a bearing on whether "lock up stage" has been reached or not. But if your brickwork is incomplete, I wouldn't be paying. We held off on a couple of stages because work wasn't done to a satisfactory standard and had no argument from our builder. Let them know in writing that you won't be paying until the brickwork is complete and refer them back to the definition of lock up stage, particularly the part about external cladding being completed. If they have a problem with that, I'm sure they'll let you know. Re: Victoria - Lock-up stage definition? 11Oct 13, 2009 11:02 am Thank you all for your replies and your suggestions. I vacillate between agreeing with Sierra that keeping the building process moving quickly is important and thinking that if we let them get away with this, what else will they try. Pfiff Finally making progress again, with a clothesline (yippee) and some much needed little things being attended to over the holidays. 40 C on New Year's eve? We love our a/c! Re: Victoria - Lock-up stage definition? 12Oct 16, 2009 12:14 am Since I last wrote, our lender advised us that their valuer had inspected the building and that it was not at lock up stage, and hence they would only permit a part payment of the invoice, and that only if I was happy for this to be done. Our builder admitted that they do accept part payments and agreed for us to do this. They then sent us a very interesting email, in which they seemed to be arguing that the building had reached lock up stage, because the lack of completion of the cladding around the front door was caused by them waiting for more cladding to be delivered! Out lender also very gently wrapped us over the knuckles for approving a payment for a stage when it had not actually been completed, but we had raised these issues with the builder who did not respond until the day the invoice was due. Pfiff Finally making progress again, with a clothesline (yippee) and some much needed little things being attended to over the holidays. 40 C on New Year's eve? We love our a/c! 1 4698 For reference, this is the Austlii reference. My take on this is, that they would be breaking the law denying access to a homeowner in Victoria, or their agent from having… 1 9099 Hey everyone Not for me or anyone I know, just generally interested. For a single allotment house, are you allowed to take the fence on both sides of your house and… 0 20901 |