Browse Forums Building A New House Re: Alfresco Length 1.8m is it worth 2Aug 26, 2009 6:25 pm Depends where abouts the alfresco will go.. is it off a master bedroom, family, dining, etc... 1.8m seems VERY very unworkable and small. The 6,5m is good, but 1.8 just wont cut it. How much will it cost, or is it standard? Built the Atlantique 37 Mk2 with Carlisle Homes - WE'RE IN!! Building thread: viewtopic.php?f=31&t=14413 ATLANTIQUE 37 MK2 PHOTOS THREAD - updated 22nd August '09 viewtopic.php?f=31&t=22399 Re: Alfresco Length 1.8m is it worth 4Aug 26, 2009 7:07 pm thanks for the replies, Yes initial quoted me for $6113 that is for the 3.5m x 6.5m I still not recieve the price for this roughly im guessing it will be around $2000 or bit more. This going to be in the back of the house that will be behind the Kitchen and dinning area. At the moment im thinking as a varendha so im not planning to put a table in their so only think will be their couple chairs and a BBQ, maybe a small round tablefor afternoon tea Other option i have is a Pergola but it can't have aroof exceeding 1.8m but can extend it. but then again i cant keep anything under it when rain. Re: Alfresco Length 1.8m is it worth 5Aug 26, 2009 7:57 pm I think this could work - have seen older houses with full length but narrow verandahs across the back of the house, and my parents have a narrow paved area with a bullnose verandah across the back of their dining area - a small alfresco, if you like - they have a bench type seat and 2 single tub chairs and small coffee tables between them - enough space to sit outside in a shaded spot and also the verandah provides some shade to the inside. Re: Alfresco Length 1.8m is it worth 7Aug 26, 2009 10:28 pm Again thanks for the replies. yes a varendah look a like alfresco. The alfresco side will be facing the sunrise. so my back will be east. stage 9 in Lyndhurst Mariott Waters Re: Alfresco Length 1.8m is it worth 9Aug 26, 2009 11:33 pm You could add a sail or something for shade and extend the decking that would still look nice and keep you within restrcitions. *Built with Gemmill Homes in WA* Slab - 1st June 2009 Plate Height - 17th June 2009 Lock Up - 18th August 2009 PCI - 5th October 2009 Hand Over - 15th Oct 2009 https://forum.homeone.com.au/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=20844 Re: Alfresco Length 1.8m is it worth 10Aug 26, 2009 11:45 pm basically i heard that you cant build beyond the envelope that includes the decking. but some people say they build it to a certain length but if someone i mean a neighbour informed the council they can ask us to remove. something like that but not sure. Re: Alfresco Length 1.8m is it worth 11Aug 27, 2009 12:17 am My concern was whether you would be shading important windows too much, especially if the alfresco isn't actually big enough to otherwise serve a useful purpose. The reason I asked where is because of latitude and climate, in some places shady verandahs are a bigger asset and in others the warmth of the sun through the windows is more important. Re: Alfresco Length 1.8m is it worth 12Aug 27, 2009 12:40 am well i dont have any trees at back and this may act as a shade to the kitchen and dinning area not the living area. Re: Alfresco Length 1.8m is it worth 13Aug 27, 2009 12:26 pm Okay, so it faces east? Some people like sun while having breakfast, some don't care. Up to you. I was just trying to introduce some other factors to consider. Main thing is you aren't blocking valuable northern sun in winter in the southern states. Re: Alfresco Length 1.8m is it worth 14Aug 27, 2009 1:24 pm clueless2009 Hi All Im building at Mariott Waters Stage 9, Cumberland 21, Because of the building envelope i can only have a 1.8m Length Alfresco. My house length is 18.19m and i have set backs from front 4m and back 3m so im end up on 20m build length. Porter Davis offered me 1.8m long 6.5m width Alfresco. the question is this worth to build since normal Alfresco will be like 3.5m x 6.5m. I like your opinion on this have to deside 2moro. regards bye for now hi clueness, I love cumberland design. For the back setback, is that an stormwater/ sewage/ water easement? If yes, severl forumers have mentioned u can pay a few hundreds to apply for building over it. If it is building setback, maybe u can consider adding this http://www.blinds.com.au/Images/Product ... wnings-(11).jpg to your alfesco. This is foldable and not considered a fixed structure, so should be fine to the setback requirement. At least u can have a bit more shading in sunny/ rainy times. Re: Alfresco Length 1.8m is it worth 15Aug 27, 2009 2:11 pm Depend on your council, may be you can remove the whole thing. After your house finished, go through other company to build a much bigger pergola/alfresco in timber/other materials. Re: Alfresco Length 1.8m is it worth 16Aug 28, 2009 2:21 am if i go with simillar Alfresco or pergola after the house build i cant build or alter the roof. so its make look seperate from the house. i have not yet confirmed but 2moro going to ask the admin how much it gonna cost me to build as it is if its cheaper i will build it since i missed out on $32000, i have to settle on the next amount $25000. the sales person told me site start on march but after i paid the deposit and they have change it to April. so i cant sign on sept need sign on november. im going to be 7000 short. Re: Alfresco Length 1.8m is it worth 17Aug 28, 2009 5:42 pm clueless2009 basically i heard that you cant build beyond the envelope that includes the decking. but some people say they build it to a certain length but if someone i mean a neighbour informed the council they can ask us to remove. something like that but not sure. I don't see why the council would care. If it is a structure that doesn't need council approval - then you can do what you like. We have done stuff on our 'don't built on envelope', like a garden shed, Kids playground (3m high), deck (ground level), screening walls, etc & soon to do, raise vege gardens - all of which you don't need council approval for. Even if a neighbour did say something to council - I don't see they would care. Call them & ease your mind. Re: Alfresco Length 1.8m is it worth 18Oct 26, 2009 7:34 pm like to update, I m going through the Alfresco that will be costing $3112 + for the slab another $1500+ depends on the soil test. so another thing has been added to my home loan. thanks for all your comments. cheers Re: Alfresco Length 1.8m is it worth 19Oct 27, 2009 8:06 am clueless2009 like to update, I m going through the Alfresco that will be costing $3112 + for the slab another $1500+ depends on the soil test. so another thing has been added to my home loan. thanks for all your comments. cheers Just my 2c... What we did with the alfresco slab was, because our builder was going to charge us over $4000 we decided to cancel it. Later we included it as part of the landscaping while the landscaper pours the concrete slab for the driveway. We just don't think it's necessary for the alfrsco to have the same thick, bulky, expensive slab as the house (to hold the bricks, frames and other stuffs). If the slab is thick/strong enough for the driveway, it's surely more than enough for the alfresco. Most importantly, we saved more than $2000. Only trouble was, during the long construction period, our alfresco area was full of mud and puddles and looks quite messy. Re: Alfresco Length 1.8m is it worth 20Oct 27, 2009 11:55 am building.our.first.house clueless2009 like to update, I m going through the Alfresco that will be costing $3112 + for the slab another $1500+ depends on the soil test. so another thing has been added to my home loan. thanks for all your comments. cheers Just my 2c... What we did with the alfresco slab was, because our builder was going to charge us over $4000 we decided to cancel it. Later we included it as part of the landscaping while the landscaper pours the concrete slab for the driveway. We just don't think it's necessary for the alfrsco to have the same thick, bulky, expensive slab as the house (to hold the bricks, frames and other stuffs). If the slab is thick/strong enough for the driveway, it's surely more than enough for the alfresco. Most importantly, we saved more than $2000. Only trouble was, during the long construction period, our alfresco area was full of mud and puddles and looks quite messy. thanks for the reply in my case now its the uncertinity of the slab type if it is M class then i dont have to pay for the alfresco slab if it is H or HD then i have to pay becoz its become a part of the roof and those 3 post that holding should hold the weight. thats what i got from csc cheers In fairness nobody gave a crap about the ACCC and the gag clauses continued in the pro forma templates of a few other builders after the ACCC took on Wisdom, and more… 19 75144 Hi I am wanting some opinions about the build of a steel shed I am going to get one about 4.5 x 2.5 m steel shed and the height will be about 2.3-2.4m high The one I am… 0 14982 Hi everyone. 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