Browse Forums Owner Builder Forum Re: When do windows go in? 8Aug 20, 2009 9:31 am Candylea Well in WA we have double brick, no wooden frames (as far as I know) and how I described b4 was how my builder does it (I also work there) so like you would start the brickwork, but put the door frames and window frames in, then the rest of the bricks... put the roof on and all that and the glass is later. Surely the glass has more chances of getting broken if you put them in earlier. Open your eyes!!! Timber frames are everywhere in WA. Pat. Re: When do windows go in? 9Aug 20, 2009 11:16 am yeah i preffer after as well to minimise risk of brakage, but all brickies ive talked to want the windows install before unless its full brick than again the carpenter needs to install them as soon as they get to the correct level. hmm last time i was in Perth im sure ive seen at least 3 out of 5 building sites were timber framed and that was 6months ago. Re: When do windows go in? 10Aug 20, 2009 12:10 pm I think it should be done at frame stage before bricks. If for what ever reason the window doesn't match the opening its a bit of a disaster if the bricks are already in. Other reason is the brickie can work bricks easier to avoid cuts if he can see exactly where the opening is. I guess its just personal preference though. Re: When do windows go in? 11Aug 20, 2009 3:50 pm Pat the draftie Candylea Well in WA we have double brick, no wooden frames (as far as I know) and how I described b4 was how my builder does it (I also work there) so like you would start the brickwork, but put the door frames and window frames in, then the rest of the bricks... put the roof on and all that and the glass is later. Surely the glass has more chances of getting broken if you put them in earlier. Open your eyes!!! Timber frames are everywhere in WA. Pat. If you would open your eyes as you read anything after the part where I said "no wooden frames", I also said "as far as I know".. which implies there well could be wooden framed houses going up, I am just not aware of them. The point I was making, was at what point to put the windows in, not to claim that we don't use frames. You didn't even have a response to the question being asked. Being a drafty, I'm sure you would know. Built with New Generation (Summit Homes) We own land!... with a slab on it! Plus a shell of a house with stuff inside ! Re: When do windows go in? 12Aug 21, 2009 1:59 pm Candylea If you would open your eyes as you read anything after the part where I said "no wooden frames", I also said "as far as I know".. which implies there well could be wooden framed houses going up, I am just not aware of them. The point I was making, was at what point to put the windows in, not to claim that we don't use frames. You didn't even have a response to the question being asked. Being a drafty, I'm sure you would know. OK Candylea, In response to your rant: I adore this website, there is a massive amount of useful information in it which can aid and educate us all (including myself!) in our building journeys and experiences. What galls me about this website, is the mis-information I experience daily. There are two things I actively participate in with this forum: 1)I will only reply to posts where I can add some sort of educated opinion on a matter. or 2)I can dis-spell some advice I consider absolute nonsense offered by someone else. Your advice unfortunately fell into this catagory. lastly, because you asked: In my humble opinion, when the windows are installed is completely up to the builder, his building methodology preference, his phasing of the building sequence and obivously the type of materials being used. Regards, Pat Re: When do windows go in? 13Aug 24, 2009 1:57 pm Hey Getting there. We building double brick so i assume it would be differnt with frames? But ours we all our "slide open" windows just the frames have gone in with the bricks, door frames etc, but all the awning windows, go in already glazed the same time (during the bricking process). The frames that still need glazing we get put in after the roof is done and after the cement render is done by the plaster but before the white float (apparently this is to help it dry out better) and its better to get them in before the white to prevent dust/dirt blowing onto it and setting into the plaster - thats my understanding anyway. I guess that doesn;t really helpthough if your using timber frames with lined walls though.. Re: When do windows go in? 14Aug 30, 2009 9:19 pm Hi getting there,
just to dispell any myths...........the unequivical answer to your question is 1st...Timber frame completely finished, braced, level, straight and square, as the bricks are tied to the frame with steel ties nailed to the frame and bedded into the mortar, so wherever the frame is once the bricks are laid, there it stays. 2nd...Put all windows in and flash sides and bottom with dampcourse or similar, where possible, set all top heights the same as the brick layer will work to a full brick at the top of the window as he will need to set a L shaped steel lintel accross the top of the window to create a "seat" for the next brick course. 3rd... Bricklayer does the above..........he'll lay to a stringline so ideally the window tops will also be set to a stringline.......... hope that clarifies everything........
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