Browse Forums Landscape & Garden Design 1 Aug 15, 2009 7:14 pm * Are we there yet ? Demolition has come and gone ! yippeeee..hang on that was months ago !! come on Mr Builder, dig a hole at least Finaly ! Hole Dug ! well done darren 20/06/2010. Slab is down ! Framing is complete 20/10/2010 we are progressing like a snail on heat - excited and determined but very very slow Steveo Re: Landscape Budget ? rule of thumb $$'s 3Aug 16, 2009 10:01 am * Are we there yet ? Demolition has come and gone ! yippeeee..hang on that was months ago !! come on Mr Builder, dig a hole at least Finaly ! Hole Dug ! well done darren 20/06/2010. Slab is down ! Framing is complete 20/10/2010 we are progressing like a snail on heat - excited and determined but very very slow Steveo Re: Landscape Budget ? rule of thumb $$'s 4Aug 16, 2009 7:03 pm Da Vinci Outdoor Living Architectural landscaping http://www.davincioutdoor.com Re: Landscape Budget ? rule of thumb $$'s 7Aug 16, 2009 10:53 pm Southies davinci ........ my current bayside job is $250,000+ x2! Custom European Cabinets - Melbourne Kitchen Specialist PM for business details as website currently being updated! Our Crazy Owner Builder Journey! Re: Landscape Budget ? rule of thumb $$'s 8Aug 17, 2009 12:02 am Ease up folks. Have you got any idea of the skill, time that goes into these before anything even goes together? Lots of study, then loads of experience is required to put that study to some use. Then there is all the bloody hard work! and I mean bloody hard yakka! the list can go on as well. However I love the opportunity to do a really well designed garden with a reliable experienced team. Have everything done right the first time, and I mean everything! I recall a job in Peppie Grove and the finished product was something else! Just such a sense of achievement. I have been past a few time since and it just gets better and better I recently saw another I was a part of that featured in the West Australian years ago. I grabbed a landscape mag at the news agent and there it was all those years later. Just great to see And those gardens don't cost money after that either. They almost look after themselves. Meanwhile the less skilled landscaped gardens will take up the clients time and money as well as waste precious water for years after that. Re: Landscape Budget ? rule of thumb $$'s 10Aug 17, 2009 10:16 am I look at it as a process...2 grand here, 2 grand there...spread it across quite a few years and one day we might be finished. i have a very basic planted, pebble decorated, no grass front yard that has so far cost me about $1500, and I can forsee another $1000 to sort of finish it. The back has so far had about $2500 spent on it and I only have grass, half a dozen trees and needs more paving, planting, garden beds etc so will maybe cost me another $10000 if i include the verandah, cubby house and chook shed. But it's something we'll do as we get the money, so we didn't really budget for it. Re: Landscape Budget ? rule of thumb $$'s 11Aug 17, 2009 8:21 pm Thanks all, very interesting feedback, I wish I had $250K for landscaping though * Are we there yet ? Demolition has come and gone ! yippeeee..hang on that was months ago !! come on Mr Builder, dig a hole at least Finaly ! Hole Dug ! well done darren 20/06/2010. Slab is down ! Framing is complete 20/10/2010 we are progressing like a snail on heat - excited and determined but very very slow Steveo Re: Landscape Budget ? rule of thumb $$'s 12Aug 27, 2009 2:16 pm When you say landscaping does that include like paving/decking? Like we are planning to redo the side of our house/open part of the garage into an entertainment area. This will mean paving, making a cover over part of the area, wok cooking area, new plants, edging, new lawn in parts, new timber stairs linking this entertainment area to our existing dec etc. I was hoping to put aside just $100,000 for it but from here it seems if landscaping is just plants that'll be what $100,000 just for that?! Re: Landscape Budget ? rule of thumb $$'s 13Aug 27, 2009 9:11 pm As all above have said, there are a heap of variables and factors in a price. Who is doing it, what is the design, features, labour, materials. Let me give you a rough breakdown of what I have spent. There has been no external labour in this, its all done by the FIL, BIL and myself. My yard is 18m wide and 6m from back of the house (exc al fresco). Most is grass. Prices inc rock down both sides of the house. Back deck about $3500 Retaining walls 500-600 Bits and pieces - $300 Shed $500 clothes line - $250 Water feature so far = $700 - $400 to go Concrete for shed and tanks -$300 2 x 3000l Tanks, pumps and irrigation - $2500 Roses - $200 mulch, Sand soil and rock supplied- $500 inc delivery Grass $600 Bundy - $3000 Gates - $400 time spent on research = a bloody long time Front yard = $500 as it was inc in our land package. Allocation from them qwas $2k It has taken me nearly 3 years to get this far, and I should be done by xmas. The 2nd best thing is that I have saved a good $10-12k on labour without question. The best thing is that my 18 mth old daughter is now enjoying the fruits of my labour. Adrian B Re: Landscape Budget ? rule of thumb $$'s 14Aug 28, 2009 9:21 am I remember reading in a mag somewhere that about 5% of your property value should go towards landscaping. I think we're spending about 5% of land value (which is about $30k) After 4 years - we're in! Re: Landscape Budget ? rule of thumb $$'s 15Aug 28, 2009 9:53 am Much of what you are paying for in professional landscaping is labour - you will obviously save a lot if you do this yourselves. We have pebbles at front, with plants, bark chips and stones and lawn at back,the only labour we paid for was laying concrete paths,and bob catting of back yard - stones, lawn, plants, bark chips etc all DIY, good size yard. Under $20,000. this is not counting the shed or the pergola, just the actual garden areas. Basic style, flat land and good amateur knowledge/experience of gardening. Re: Landscape Budget ? rule of thumb $$'s 16Aug 28, 2009 2:32 pm stonecutter1309 I remember reading in a mag somewhere that about 5% of your property value should go towards landscaping. I think we're spending about 5% of land value (which is about $30k) I think that would only work for suburban block. I think we have spent more than 5% so far. Regards, Ari Ari & Scott Darwin, NT Re: Landscape Budget ? rule of thumb $$'s 17Aug 28, 2009 7:13 pm % of house value for amount to spent on landscaping is to be plunt an absolute load of crap. Spend what is needed for your taste, style and budget. To give a good example one of my colleagues quoted a simple 1 day court yard at $1500 + gst, Jamie Jurie quoted the same project at $80,000 his asumption was to spend %10 of property value an absolute total waste of money and the property was a rental. I have constructed landscapes on million dollar propertys for less than %5 of property value. Our projects range from $20,000 upto $500,000 + and as yet i have never based my designs on property value. Da Vinci Outdoor Living Architectural landscaping http://www.davincioutdoor.com Re: Landscape Budget ? rule of thumb $$'s 18Aug 30, 2009 3:27 pm Fu Manchu Ease up folks. Have you got any idea of the skill, time that goes into these before anything even goes together? Lots of study, then loads of experience is required to put that study to some use. Then there is all the bloody hard work! and I mean bloody hard yakka! the list can go on as well. However I love the opportunity to do a really well designed garden with a reliable experienced team. Have everything done right the first time, and I mean everything! I recall a job in Peppie Grove and the finished product was something else! Just such a sense of achievement. I have been past a few time since and it just gets better and better I recently saw another I was a part of that featured in the West Australian years ago. I grabbed a landscape mag at the news agent and there it was all those years later. Just great to see And those gardens don't cost money after that either. They almost look after themselves. Meanwhile the less skilled landscaped gardens will take up the clients time and money as well as waste precious water for years after that. Hi Fu, I certainly value experience and training that designers provide, I am struggling with how much to spend on a design as I have no idea how hard or easy it is to produce . I have done a search on H1 and from what I can tell designers costs between $500 to $10,000. Most of the LIAV appear to be around the $4.5K+ mark and non certified closer to the $2K mark.. yup I guess the same principles apply; show me your work and have a chat to the designer, and pick one you think you can work with * Are we there yet ? Demolition has come and gone ! yippeeee..hang on that was months ago !! come on Mr Builder, dig a hole at least Finaly ! Hole Dug ! well done darren 20/06/2010. Slab is down ! Framing is complete 20/10/2010 we are progressing like a snail on heat - excited and determined but very very slow Steveo Re: Landscape Budget ? rule of thumb $$'s 19Aug 30, 2009 9:39 pm davinci % of house value for amount to spent on landscaping is to be plunt an absolute load of crap. Spend what is needed for your taste, style and budget. To give a good example one of my colleagues quoted a simple 1 day court yard at $1500 + gst, Jamie Jurie quoted the same project at $80,000 his asumption was to spend %10 of property value an absolute total waste of money and the property was a rental. I have constructed landscapes on million dollar propertys for less than %5 of property value. Our projects range from $20,000 upto $500,000 + and as yet i have never based my designs on property value. I am currently building a custom home on 1/4 acre with L37 and have set aside a reasonable budget for pool and landscaping. I have done quite a bit of research to try and establish a budget prior to commencing this project. I am quite interested (happy) in your frank comments given what I have heard/read from others in your field, for example, Steve Taylor Managing Director from 'Creative outdoor solutions' wrote the following in Issue 4 of Melbourne Pool & Outdoor Design, regarding landscape budgets: Like ⋅ Add a comment ⋅ Pin to Ideaboard ⋅ The above does not include pool cost, which I found a bit staggering, I will no doubt be giving you a call for my landcscape quote in the near future. Interested in your thoughts Re: Landscape Budget ? rule of thumb $$'s 20Aug 30, 2009 10:10 pm My basic point was you dont have to always spend big dollars on top range material if your budget doesnt allow or your personal taste does not call for it. In saying that if you were to spend say $10,000 on a 1 million dollar house you obviously wont get much at all or spend $50,000 using entry level material then you are also not increasing your capital gain by anything. I installed Egyptian marble in a house in Brighton worth $600 odd a sq mtr just for the stone. My current project is on a house worth far more than brighton using bluestone at $100 a sq mtr for stone only. The basic concepts in style and design can still be implemented whilst being smart in the choice of quality materials and placement of those materials. You can create quality landscapes by spending big and by spending small/medium dependant on circumstance but in both instances the 'design' is the key factor. I can supply has travertine pool coping for $60 odd dollars a piece put that against something like riverstone (mid range product) coping and there isnt much diffrence in price but the actual capital gain using the travetine is far more than riverstone. 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