Browse Forums Building A New House Re: Dispensation for setback - Monash City, Victoria 8Aug 09, 2009 1:01 am Building thread viewtopic.php?f=31&t=22917 27.07.09 Contract signed. 08.09.09 Site scraped. 18.09.09 Slab completed! 23.11.09 Bricking done 09.03.10 - Tiling 15.04.10 PCI 01.05.10 Handover Re: Dispensation for setback - Monash City, Victoria 10Aug 10, 2009 2:29 am jspitz Congratulations on getting your setback approved-some things are definetly worth persevering. We had no luck getting our crossover any wider than 3.5M but did get it approved to be moved-I tried for a few months and spoke to multiple people but as you mentioned they seem to have tightened up the crossover approvals unfortunetly for both of us. We are building in Ashwood-what about you? Hi Jspitz, Regarding the crossover, I pretty much accepted what was told to me by the city engineer. Coincidentally, he was the same person who dealt with my neighbour's successful application for a 5m crossover way back in end 2006....so lucky her. That said, the city engineer said he would help with how our new crossover would be finished at the road end since he noticed that the angle of the road to the land was somewhat acute and he said it would be a bummer to keep driving into the kerb. Which reminds me, I did ask for a council quote but they never sent one to me. So I'll have to chase up on this issue plus the design of the crossover. We are building in Glen Waverley. Decided to stay on in this suburb since our eldest started school last year and next year my 2nd one goes to kindergarten near the primary school. Lovely neighbourhood Ashwood is. I have driven through it on my way over from Glen Waverley to Glen Iris.... Otherwise, how is your build going? Mine hasn't started yet! We are still at the paper stage with the contracts signed a couple of weeks only. I have a huge saga with DFH at this point and on the verge of calling them myself to complain.... Building thread viewtopic.php?f=31&t=22917 27.07.09 Contract signed. 08.09.09 Site scraped. 18.09.09 Slab completed! 23.11.09 Bricking done 09.03.10 - Tiling 15.04.10 PCI 01.05.10 Handover Re: Dispensation for setback - Monash City, Victoria 11Aug 11, 2009 3:28 pm Hi, thanks for the reply. Glen Waverley is also nice-I spend a lot of time at the Glen shopping centre which is 7 mins from us. We are at completion stage so it is getting exciting, but frustrating...so close. The red tape does do your head in-we had plenty of it too. Not sure if i'd go through this whole experience again-I'd certainly be a lot wiser!!! Re: Dispensation for setback - Monash City, Victoria 12Aug 11, 2009 10:05 pm Hi Jspitz, Good to know that you're almost on the home run At least (fingers crossed), you'll be enjoying this summer in your new home May I ask what you're building? We're building a DFH double storey design - they were the only project builders with a narrow design. We considered M*tric*n but their site costs were pretty high ($40-50k for retaining wall along drainage easement, land fall of 1.2m, piering etc). I know what you mean ---- I don't think I would want to go through this building ordeal ever again - and I say this without even having started my 1st home build!!!!!!! Hey, who knows, we may have crossed paths at The Glen without even knowing it! Building thread viewtopic.php?f=31&t=22917 27.07.09 Contract signed. 08.09.09 Site scraped. 18.09.09 Slab completed! 23.11.09 Bricking done 09.03.10 - Tiling 15.04.10 PCI 01.05.10 Handover Re: Dispensation for setback - Monash City, Victoria 13Aug 11, 2009 10:56 pm Hi tc2000, we are building the M Tribeca 40, we were lucky in that our block is 16.5mx42m so could fit almost any house on it (which is pretty rare these days). Yes site costs with M are ridiculous. We also have fall, maybe 1.5m over building site, needed screw piles and a demo block they make you do a P class slab=30K of site costs! But looked at all the options and a custom build for something similar was going to be a lot more. You can see our progress if you search for "our tribeca 40". Excuse my ignorance but what do the initials of your builder stand for-is it a custom build? What are the dimensions of your block? My brother also had problems finding a builder for his 2 storey as he has a 12M wide block-ended up building with Ash*ford homes-would not recommend them, there is lots of threads on the forum on them. Is there a website with your floorplan-love seeing what other people are doing with their floorplans, color selections etc. Re: Dispensation for setback - Monash City, Victoria 14Aug 11, 2009 11:59 pm Hi tc2000, We are also building in Monash and applied for setback dispensation. We had one neighbour at 7.6 and one at 10m!!! We applied for a dispensation and sold it on the basis that we stepped the front of the house. ie 7.6 on one side and 9.5 to the garage. We also then have a potico out the front reducing the setback to 6.4m. The portico is not technically the front wall of the house so doesn't count. Of course you have to sweet talk the neighbours to get a signature. The council side of things was fairly quick and efficent (2-3 weeks). I don't think ours looks out of place as 4 houses along they are finishing a town house on the rear of a corner lot and therefore was alowed about a 3-4m set back which is to imposing. We also set the top floor back 1m to reduce the impact. It's worth pursuing as you can't change your mind later. Re: Dispensation for setback - Monash City, Victoria 15Aug 12, 2009 1:42 am jspitz Hi tc2000, we are building the M Tribeca 40, we were lucky in that our block is 16.5mx42m so could fit almost any house on it (which is pretty rare these days). Yes site costs with M are ridiculous. We also have fall, maybe 1.5m over building site, needed screw piles and a demo block they make you do a P class slab=30K of site costs! But looked at all the options and a custom build for something similar was going to be a lot more. You can see our progress if you search for "our tribeca 40". Excuse my ignorance but what do the initials of your builder stand for-is it a custom build? What are the dimensions of your block? My brother also had problems finding a builder for his 2 storey as he has a 12M wide block-ended up building with Ash*ford homes-would not recommend them, there is lots of threads on the forum on them. Is there a website with your floorplan-love seeing what other people are doing with their floorplans, color selections etc. HI jspitz, Yes, you are lucky with your block dimensions! My block is 15.52m (front), 18.42m (rear), 42.10m (left boundary) and 32.10m (right boundary). On paper it doesn't look too bad...but we have a 3m drainage easement running along the 42m boundary so this means our block is really 12.52m in width at the front....Council didn't allow us to build on or too near to the easement which limited our design search to narrow house designs.... Funny isn't it that most project builders include a Class M slab in the base prices but there is hardly any soil classification out there that is Class M anyway - Or they have every alphabet but Class P....and they make you pay for a different Class slab! We also looked at the Tribecca 40 when we spoke with M*tric*n. DFH stands for Dennis Family Homes. We are building the Marsden design - I have a huge saga about this but I shan't get into it. Check out their website, look under Generation series and my design is based on the Marsden 341. We liked it because not only did it suit our block but the secondary bedrooms were of a decent size with WIRs (which I like). I'm actually in the process of setting up a website/blog about my house building project....will let you know when that is up and running....I'll check out your progress as suggested. I, too, like to read and see other people's progress!! Hope we can continue to stay in touch Building thread viewtopic.php?f=31&t=22917 27.07.09 Contract signed. 08.09.09 Site scraped. 18.09.09 Slab completed! 23.11.09 Bricking done 09.03.10 - Tiling 15.04.10 PCI 01.05.10 Handover Re: Dispensation for setback - Monash City, Victoria 16Aug 12, 2009 1:51 am mudmap Hi tc2000, We are also building in Monash and applied for setback dispensation. We had one neighbour at 7.6 and one at 10m!!! We applied for a dispensation and sold it on the basis that we stepped the front of the house. ie 7.6 on one side and 9.5 to the garage. We also then have a potico out the front reducing the setback to 6.4m. The portico is not technically the front wall of the house so doesn't count. Of course you have to sweet talk the neighbours to get a signature. The council side of things was fairly quick and efficent (2-3 weeks). I don't think ours looks out of place as 4 houses along they are finishing a town house on the rear of a corner lot and therefore was alowed about a 3-4m set back which is to imposing. We also set the top floor back 1m to reduce the impact. It's worth pursuing as you can't change your mind later. Hi Mudmap, Thx for your reply. Yup, I dug my heels in and researched the length and breadth of the WWW to find the correct wording to use in my dispensation letter. I also did the "forlorn" and "helpless" female act with the assistant building inspector to squeeze out from him as much advice as possible (to of course use in my letter). I was over at Town & Planning so many times that at one point, one of the guys behind the counter recognised me and than subsequently, another guy recognised me not because he had seen me before but because he had seen my floor plans a couple of times (when my hubby went down). So 5 pages worth of words, an aerial pic of my street (painstakingly created via google map and multiple prints), various recreations of neighbours setback to mine, and 2.5 weeks later, voila, Council gave its consent (despite and objection from one neighbour - about loss of sunlight to her verandah!). Well, it did help that we have the drainage easement and the angled frontage - which worked in our favour. I even went down to personally thank the assistant building inspector! Would have hugged him but I thought it would be too much..... Where abouts are you building? Building thread viewtopic.php?f=31&t=22917 27.07.09 Contract signed. 08.09.09 Site scraped. 18.09.09 Slab completed! 23.11.09 Bricking done 09.03.10 - Tiling 15.04.10 PCI 01.05.10 Handover Re: Dispensation for setback - Monash City, Victoria 17Aug 12, 2009 10:00 am tc2000 I'm sure in the long run you'll be glad you went to the effort. We are building in Oakleigh. Approx 8 weeks to go so we're getting excited. Re: Dispensation for setback - Monash City, Victoria 18Aug 12, 2009 12:01 pm Hi mudmap, Congrats too on being on the final stretch! As I said to jspitz, you'll have the joy of being in your new home this summer ! Well, I don't regret the tears and stress involved for the dispensation application..it was worth the countless trips to Town & Planning definitely! My next battle is with DFH to complain about their pricing for our house design. We signed for a modified design of what is now an extinct design which came up more expensive than the new design recently released (just after we signed our contract!). Our design is actually the same as the new released design. The worst is having been told early this year the cost of the proposed sale price of the now new design which has gone down by $8-10k - which makes our design overpriced. The display options we got are also now part of the standard inclusions which came into effect on 20 July 2009 - the day we signed but we were not told of this....SIGH Am about to send off a letter of concern (a nicer word than complaint) to DFH.....I can only try! Building thread viewtopic.php?f=31&t=22917 27.07.09 Contract signed. 08.09.09 Site scraped. 18.09.09 Slab completed! 23.11.09 Bricking done 09.03.10 - Tiling 15.04.10 PCI 01.05.10 Handover Re: Dispensation for setback - Monash City, Victoria 19Aug 12, 2009 8:32 pm Hi tc2000, your floor plan looks great-I like the big open living area at the back, the huge walk in pantry and the stairs being at the side like our house. The facade is really nice and contemporary too. That's annoying about the pricing going down on your house-with M the prices only go up!!!! Our house is at least 20K more expensive now than when we signed up and I think we got mostly better inclusions. But they get you no matter what you do. We copped an extra $6500 from our preliminary contract to our final contract because they suddenly decided we needed screw piles (I fought it with high up people at M but got nowhere) and copped $3500 as they couldn't get on site within 5 months of us signing our initial deposit as we had the demo to do. You get a great base price for the size of the house but they certainly get their cream in site costs and hugely inflated upgrades. I will look out for your blog-look forward to seeing it transform! Re: Dispensation for setback - Monash City, Victoria 20Aug 12, 2009 11:19 pm Hi jspitz, Thx for your reply...after shopping around, we decided that most floorplans actually looked the same barring the different facades. I think Porter Davis started this design and have actually successfully won law suits against their competitors. Last I heard, law suits against M*tr*con and DFH were also pending! Apparently, PD have a copyright for dining off kitchen, family area, rear rumpus room and alfresco from dining area.... Since our house design is narrower (at least by almost 0.5-1m compared to your design and PD's Cremorne 42), our downstairs and upstairs living area is much smaller too. But the bigger bedrooms and the WIRs makeup for this deficit For our house design, we decided to go for the Classic facade. It's not as eye catching as the Resort or Modern facade admittedly...we felt the classic was more in keeping with our neighbourhood. Yes, I will keep you posted with pics and stuff when the time comes to start..... Building thread viewtopic.php?f=31&t=22917 27.07.09 Contract signed. 08.09.09 Site scraped. 18.09.09 Slab completed! 23.11.09 Bricking done 09.03.10 - Tiling 15.04.10 PCI 01.05.10 Handover 3 1214 Hi All, see above image. The required setback from the rear boundary in my case is 5m, as you can see the shape of the site and location of the boundary is slightly… 0 8489 This was on google. Development controls 2.3.1 Front setback D1 New buildings within residential areas shall adhere to a front building line, which is 5.5-6m to the… 1 3701 |