Re: FLOORING 22May 18, 2009 10:56 pm Building in Harvest Lakes, Atwell (Perth) status: design phase with builder Re: FLOORING 23May 19, 2009 4:55 pm Built 36sq Plantation "Retreat" on 4460m2 at Spring Mountain, Qld In Living and landscaping.. >>> ... http://retreatspring.blogspot.com Re: FLOORING 24May 19, 2009 5:40 pm Internal and External Building and Colour Consultant Online - Worldwide http://www.denovoconcepts.com Re: FLOORING 26May 19, 2009 10:49 pm Built 36sq Plantation "Retreat" on 4460m2 at Spring Mountain, Qld In Living and landscaping.. >>> ... http://retreatspring.blogspot.com Re: FLOORING 27May 20, 2009 12:17 pm Building in Harvest Lakes, Atwell (Perth) status: design phase with builder Re: FLOORING 31May 21, 2009 5:50 pm Internal and External Building and Colour Consultant Online - Worldwide http://www.denovoconcepts.com Re: FLOORING 34May 22, 2009 7:46 am neorayez Hi guys, I have noticed that vinyl planking is becoming popular. Can i just say to you guys getting prices, make sure the salesperson gives you the price for floor preperation as well as the products supplied and fitted price. Why i say this is because i have seen it time and time again, i will turn up to a job, salesperson has sold product to customer and left floor preperation up to the client. Now when i advise the client that the floor is not good enough and that i will need to apply a feather finish to the floor before i can lay the planks, which will add an extra day to installation, depending on m2 of course. They become very disheartened. When i tell them the added cost of doing the floor prep, well lets just say ive seen my fair share of people cry in utter disbelief at the extra cost. Floor prep is crucial to achieve a quality installation. Before going to get a price, check you slab out, is it smooth? are there holes or cracks that would need filling? Advise your salesperson on the condition of your floor. Unfortunately floor prep can get quite expensive. But skimping on it can make a quality product look like utter crap. That’s a good point! When I worked for Carpet Court, that’s the first they would bring up, the floor prep. They always ask the customer about the floor. Then go and have a look for themselves. I find it awful to think that a flooring company would not make the customer aware of this. Internal and External Building and Colour Consultant Online - Worldwide http://www.denovoconcepts.com Re: FLOORING 35May 22, 2009 12:01 pm Quote: Also, many of the sales people I spoke with today said not to get so hung up on the durability and to just get the one that looks the best. With a 0.3mm wear layer they reckon it will last plenty long enough in a house. Van Gogh with the 0.5mm layer is commonly used in commercial shops apparently. So the Knight Tile would be a suitable option then for most homes? I feel so cheap picking the cheaper alternative... Also I'm looking for at possibly Warm Oak, American Oak or Walnut - I live in a small country town so the local(2 hours drive away) carpet place doesn't have samples of all the colours so am having trouble picturing it. Any suggestions? Our decor is mostly white, white kitchen, benchtops, beige/browns in furniture. Thanks Re: FLOORING 36May 22, 2009 12:51 pm CrazyEyes Anyway average prices were: Van Gogh $85, Knight Tile $75, Armstrong $65 Is that a price for product only or installed? neorayez - Is it right that you need to put a 3mm layer over the slab before they are glued on? If so what is this process called? I have been told they just "level out" areas that are not flat. I don't know the condition of the slab as we have been in our established home for 13yrs since we built. Quote: Also I'm looking for at possibly Warm Oak, American Oak or Walnut - I live in a small country town so the local(2 hours drive away) carpet place doesn't have samples of all the colours so am having trouble picturing it. Any suggestions? Our decor is mostly white, white kitchen, benchtops, beige/browns in furniture. If you go onto the Karndean website, you can order samples for free and they arrive in a few days. http://www.karndean.com.au Re: FLOORING 37May 22, 2009 6:59 pm cmt it depends on the condition of your slab. Most new houses have quite a smooth slab, so i would just do a 1mm featheredge finish. An older slab like yours may need a 3mm coat, it is very hard to tell untill i have seen the floor. A good way to check would be to get a 1 meter straight edge and sit it on the floor, if you see gaps under the straight edge of more than 2/3 mm than more than likely you will need the thicker screed coat. This is to Australian standards, Well it was when i did my apprenticeship many years ago. The process of "fixing" the floor is called screeding. Generally, if i have to level out areas than i will do this with a cement compound like k15, or rapid set, then i will apply a finishing coat called fetheredge. A good floorcoverer will almost certainly featheredge a floor before laying planks. There are alternatives, like sanding or grinding floors, but this involves a lot of dust so becomes a messy process for people when living in their homes. Re: FLOORING 38May 22, 2009 9:46 pm cmt, those prices include installation but they do not include the surface prep as neorayez mentioned. neorayez, thanks very much for your advice. Similar to Michelle most sales people have been up front about the additional cost of surface preparation and said they would get their installer to inspect the slab to give a full quote which included surface prep. I did ask them for a rough estimate of the usual cost of surface prep for a new house slab and answers ranged from $6 sqm to $12 sqm. Do these figures sound ball park? Something else which strongly confirmed your excellent advice was a point made by one salesman. He said be careful about simply getting the cheapest product quote because some stores may give a low price on the product but then give a higher price for the surface prep. So only way to truly compare them is to get fully costed quotes. Re: FLOORING 39May 23, 2009 1:08 pm $6 to $12 a m2 sounds about right. I personally charge $6 a m2 for a 1-2 mm coat, if i have to do a second coat than i will normally negotiate a set price for the whole job rather than double charge. ie - 90m2 @ $6 m2 = $540 plus gst. if i were to do it twice i would get client to pay for material, and say $700 cash or if they require tax invoices $800 plus gst and i will supply material. Now these arn't concrete figures, excuse the pun! Everything is determined by the condition of your slab. Talk to your installers, youll find they will be very negotiable, and as a 'tradey' myself, cash will always get you a better deal. Re: FLOORING 40May 24, 2009 7:23 pm What luck that everyone is chatting about vinyl flooring, as I came onto the forum to ask what the general consensus was. I went this afternoon and had a good look at the flooring, but was offered a cheaper version called Winston. At a recent homeshow here in Perth, Karndean was displayed on a few stalls, and looked excellent and very real and "wood-like" We have such a mindset against vinyl as the old stuff didn't look so great after a while, that it makes one a little anxious to go this route. However, I have been really impressed by what I have seen, so will watch this thread with interest (espcially with Michelle giving it thumbs up !) Built the Driftwood with C*ollier Homes Moved in 8 November 2009 Slowly getting organised ..... 1000000% definitely add insulation. I have in my home and it makes a big difference minimising sound transfer. Insulation is pretty cheap and definitely worth it 2 6862 Engineering timber is certainly a less fuss option, times cheaper to supply and install and better withstands humidity. 1 16795 Hi there, I'm a conplete newbie to this, but I'm looking to put a floor down in my 6x9m shed. It's currently sitting on a 100mm thick concrete perimeter (dirt floor… 0 6994 |