Browse Forums Building A New House Re: How to kill building contract 6Dec 05, 2023 9:20 am ownerinproblem ponzutwo that drawing is just your lighting plan, not structural plans. Check those and see what it looks like. also cancelling your contract could become more expensive than you realise at this point. Id say slow your roll and take a look at the plans properly, what do they show (not assume), and then work with the builder to solve amicably. You are right, and the structural plan does NOT have that arrangement which I want. The new amended drawing after complaining has it and the arrangement is only 125mm, I am not sure how it will achieve the LED light effect. And for this builder wants 3.5k, and it doesn't even include LED itself, just the frame and plasterboard. Like ⋅ Add a comment ⋅ Pin to Ideaboard ⋅ Right so the plans you originally signed off didn't have the detail you wanted and you expected the builder would know based on verbal communication. To put it bluntly, that's your fault and canceling a contract on that basis would likley have seen you sued. This is one you're going to need to wear or calmly work with the builder in resolving. Given the framing is up, any retrofit work that cant be done int the existing structure will cost you a lot of money. And so it should. You agreed to a plan, then got angry when you realised the plans you agreed to didnt include the vision you had in your head. This comes under a variation to your contract and AFAIK the builder doesnt have to agree to it either, not for this. regarding your lighting not being included, check the schedule of your lighting plan for the item. The plan shows it and its connection to a light switch, so you should have a corresponding line item. If not, and youve signe doff on it, youl'll need to work out from your contract what takes precedence, the lighting plan or the schedule. either way if it hasnt been costed into your build, you still have to pay for the goods. Nothing is free my friend. You should adjust your position here with the builder, this is not his mistake, its yours. And the more you carry on like its their fault, the less likley youre going to get any flexibility or concessions from the for anything else that comes up. Re: How to kill building contract 7Dec 05, 2023 9:39 am ponzutwo ownerinproblem ponzutwo that drawing is just your lighting plan, not structural plans. Check those and see what it looks like. also cancelling your contract could become more expensive than you realise at this point. Id say slow your roll and take a look at the plans properly, what do they show (not assume), and then work with the builder to solve amicably. You are right, and the structural plan does NOT have that arrangement which I want. The new amended drawing after complaining has it and the arrangement is only 125mm, I am not sure how it will achieve the LED light effect. And for this builder wants 3.5k, and it doesn't even include LED itself, just the frame and plasterboard. Right so the plans you originally signed off didn't have the detail you wanted and you expected the builder would know based on verbal communication. To put it bluntly, that's your fault and canceling a contract on that basis would likley have seen you sued. This is one you're going to need to wear or calmly work with the builder in resolving. Given the framing is up, any retrofit work that cant be done int the existing structure will cost you a lot of money. And so it should. You agreed to a plan, then got angry when you realised the plans you agreed to didnt include the vision you had in your head. This comes under a variation to your contract and AFAIK the builder doesnt have to agree to it either, not for this. regarding your lighting not being included, check the schedule of your lighting plan for the item. The plan shows it and its connection to a light switch, so you should have a corresponding line item. If not, and youve signe doff on it, youl'll need to work out from your contract what takes precedence, the lighting plan or the schedule. either way if it hasnt been costed into your build, you still have to pay for the goods. Nothing is free my friend. You should adjust your position here with the builder, this is not his mistake, its yours. And the more you carry on like its their fault, the less likley youre going to get any flexibility or concessions from the for anything else that comes up. The original plan I signed I did not know how it would show in a plan, the original plan said 300 MM bulkhead, and LED around it made me think its the same ceiling I requested. When he gave amended plan, only then I knew how it should look on paper The electrical arrangement is there for LED and I am not asking for LED from him anyways. Its the excessive cost of 7K for 2 ceilings that I am not happy with. This is the hallway for which he wants 3.5k, the length of the hallways is 13 meters and width is 1080 mm Re: How to kill building contract 8Dec 05, 2023 9:47 am the old " i didnt understand/misunderstood the plans" situation isnt going to help you. It all boils down to your mistake. So moving forward.... (13mx2)+(1.08mx2) = 28.16m $3,500/28.16m = $124.29 per meter Take that $ figure and multiply it by the length of the perimiter of teh area that needs rectification in the living area. If is any significant amount off from the quoted figure of $7k, speak to teh builder about it. Let us know what $ you come back with edit - also what about your entry lounge, youve not mentioned that. Is that needing to be addressed also? Re: How to kill building contract 9Dec 05, 2023 10:01 am ponzutwo the old " i didnt understand/misunderstood the plans" situation isnt going to help you. It all boils down to your mistake. So moving forward.... (13mx2)+(1.08mx2) = 28.16m $3,500/28.16m = $124.29 per meter Take that $ figure and multiply it by the length of the perimiter of teh area that needs rectification in the living area. If is any significant amount off from the quoted figure of $7k, speak to teh builder about it. Let us know what $ you come back with edit - also what about your entry lounge, youve not mentioned that. Is that needing to be addressed also? THANK you so much for being of such great help! I am a 1st time builder And the cost for hallway IS for the entire length of it, as thats what I had originally requested This is another living room for which he wants 3k which I still find reasonable as there is a drop down ceiling inside the bulkhead Like ⋅ Add a comment ⋅ Pin to Ideaboard ⋅ Re: How to kill building contract 10Dec 05, 2023 10:24 am alexp79 This is called 2 level ceiling and does generally require the usage of special profile for lighting (not just bulkhead profile which your builder probably used): https://www.ledrise.eu/blog/cove-lighting/ See second drawing here: Like ⋅ Add a comment ⋅ Pin to Ideaboard ⋅ But yes extrusions might be a cheaper option, although the lighting won't be really concealed in this case and won't look as good as proper cove lighting. Thank you for this image, for my ceiling there is an L shaped bulkhead which will conceal the LED, if you scroll up you would see where the LED will go. Re: How to kill building contract 11Dec 05, 2023 10:25 am Pulse A coffered ceiling is something different again. Seems like a miscommunication, 10k is a bit much for that too. I would start by apologising for not making it clear and see what resolution you can get and ask for a cost breakdown. You can use extrusions to conceal the led strip to get a similar effect. https://linearlux.com.au/product/ll-pr-wl-5314/ Do you have any real life image of this setup, I considering all my options Re: How to kill building contract 12Dec 08, 2023 5:18 pm ponzutwo the old " i didnt understand/misunderstood the plans" situation isnt going to help you. It all boils down to your mistake. So moving forward.... (13mx2)+(1.08mx2) = 28.16m $3,500/28.16m = $124.29 per meter Take that $ figure and multiply it by the length of the perimiter of teh area that needs rectification in the living area. If is any significant amount off from the quoted figure of $7k, speak to teh builder about it. Let us know what $ you come back with edit - also what about your entry lounge, youve not mentioned that. Is that needing to be addressed also? I ended up refusing to pay that silly amount for ceiling, and the builder ended up changing 1st Living room ceiling in revenge and still charging 3k, so I ended up removing front Ceiling room as well! Game over Re: How to kill building contract 13Dec 08, 2023 7:08 pm ownerinproblem ponzutwo the old " i didnt understand/misunderstood the plans" situation isnt going to help you. It all boils down to your mistake. So moving forward.... (13mx2)+(1.08mx2) = 28.16m $3,500/28.16m = $124.29 per meter Take that $ figure and multiply it by the length of the perimiter of teh area that needs rectification in the living area. If is any significant amount off from the quoted figure of $7k, speak to teh builder about it. Let us know what $ you come back with edit - also what about your entry lounge, youve not mentioned that. Is that needing to be addressed also? I ended up refusing to pay that silly amount for ceiling, and the builder ended up changing 1st Living room ceiling in revenge and still charging 3k, so I ended up removing front Ceiling room as well! Game over I like the bit where you think you won. Now you don't have the feature you wanted and you have a terrible relationship with your builder while there's still building going on Rofl. The irony of this is is that after all that, it was still your fault. Game over, indeed. Re: How to kill building contract 14Dec 08, 2023 7:16 pm ponzutwo ownerinproblem ponzutwo the old " i didnt understand/misunderstood the plans" situation isnt going to help you. It all boils down to your mistake. So moving forward.... (13mx2)+(1.08mx2) = 28.16m $3,500/28.16m = $124.29 per meter Take that $ figure and multiply it by the length of the perimiter of teh area that needs rectification in the living area. If is any significant amount off from the quoted figure of $7k, speak to teh builder about it. Let us know what $ you come back with edit - also what about your entry lounge, youve not mentioned that. Is that needing to be addressed also? I ended up refusing to pay that silly amount for ceiling, and the builder ended up changing 1st Living room ceiling in revenge and still charging 3k, so I ended up removing front Ceiling room as well! Game over I like the bit where you think you won. Now you don't have the feature you wanted and you have a terrible relationship with your builder while there's still building going on Rofl. The irony of this is is that after all that, it was still your fault. Game over, indeed. Right, and as if asking 7K for a 2K job is cementing the relationship. You HAVE to be someone from the building industry who can come up with such silly logic anyways...... This forum was indeed helpful. Re: How to kill building contract 15Dec 08, 2023 7:21 pm ownerinproblem ponzutwo ownerinproblem I ended up refusing to pay that silly amount for ceiling, and the builder ended up changing 1st Living room ceiling in revenge and still charging 3k, so I ended up removing front Ceiling room as well! Game over I like the bit where you think you won. Now you don't have the feature you wanted and you have a terrible relationship with your builder while there's still building going on Rofl. The irony of this is is that after all that, it was still your fault. Game over, indeed. Right, and as if asking 7K for a 2K job is not cementing the relationship. You HAVE to be someone from the building industry who can come up with such silly logic anyways...... This forum was indeed helpful. 2k job lol. Enjoy your home 🤣 Re: How to kill building contract 16Dec 08, 2023 10:31 pm ponzutwo ownerinproblem ponzutwo I like the bit where you think you won. Now you don't have the feature you wanted and you have a terrible relationship with your builder while there's still building going on Rofl. The irony of this is is that after all that, it was still your fault. Game over, indeed. Right, and as if asking 7K for a 2K job is not cementing the relationship. You HAVE to be someone from the building industry who can come up with such silly logic anyways...... This forum was indeed helpful. 2k job lol. Enjoy your home 🤣 Ok You talk about deletions, are they variations or PS and PC adjustments? pleas list them 1 16910 I've decided, after a period of confusion (my building broker told me it's probably not worth it to use a lawyer, but others have said it is a must) that I definitely will… 7 28094 Build on a flat block! what you saved by buying the slope sensitive block will be double what the builder will charge you! 1 5332 |