Browse Forums Building A New House Reply Like Share More 06 Jan 2021 4 New Poster 1 Jan 06, 2021 11:57 pm I really love the Banksia House from the YourHome website and was wondering if anyone knows of any builders who have a similar floor plan with energy efficiency in mind? Or if anyone has built a similar home custom what kind of costs I should be planning for? Like ⋅ Add a comment ⋅ Pin to Ideaboard ⋅ Share Looking to buy a block of land in regional VIC and build. I want a functional, well thought out floor plan - so far the banksia (pictured above) sounds perfect! - living areas on the sunny side of the house - at least one toilet easily accessible from living area, (not surrounded by lots of doors that guests need to poke through) - bathrooms, laundries, garage on the shady side - master bed far away from beds 2 and 3 - office area close to living area so anyone working is not excluded - no long corridors between garage and kitchen/pantry - don't want to have to lug heavy bags through to the end of the house - ideally a simple rectangular shape I'm open to other suggestions and ideas Reply Reply Like Share More 04 Jun 2020 206 Bronze Member Re: Banksia House from YourHome Passive Design 2Jan 08, 2021 3:45 pm mowgliandme I really love the Banksia House from the YourHome website and was wondering if anyone knows of any builders who have a similar floor plan with energy efficiency in mind? Or if anyone has built a similar home custom what kind of costs I should be planning for? Like ⋅ Add a comment ⋅ Pin to Ideaboard ⋅ Share Looking to buy a block of land in regional VIC and build. I want a functional, well thought out floor plan - so far the banksia (pictured above) sounds perfect! - living areas on the sunny side of the house - at least one toilet easily accessible from living area, (not surrounded by lots of doors that guests need to poke through) - bathrooms, laundries, garage on the shady side - master bed far away from beds 2 and 3 - office area close to living area so anyone working is not excluded - no long corridors between garage and kitchen/pantry - don't want to have to lug heavy bags through to the end of the house - ideally a simple rectangular shape I'm open to other suggestions and ideas Off to a good start! I would recommend joing this facebook group and searching previous posts about sustainable builders/architects in your area. https://www.facebook.com/groups/MyEffic ... ctricHome/. I think Victoria has quite a few options depending on where you live (I am not from Vic). For this plan, I would guess you could find a decent builder who knows what they're doing and pay between $300-400k (given the specs they use on the yourgov website). A lot will come down to site costs, quality of windows and level of finish. I would budget for between $1800/m2 and $2400/m2 for a turn key of this type including solar. I'd recommend to look at UPVC windows or thermally broken aluminium as opposed to standard aluminium or timber (good balance of performance and cost). Also upgrade insulation in the ceiling. A good sustainable builder should know all about air tightness, which is also key but is more of a quality control thing rather than an additional cost. Sit down with a few different people and discuss what you're after (as you have in you post). They could use a similar plan to this or something more suitable to your site. Go and visit some of their builds if possible. Reply Reply Like Share More 06 Jan 2021 4 New Poster Re: Banksia House from YourHome Passive Design 3Jan 08, 2021 7:19 pm Thank so much, just joined the group and its awesome Thats my plan regarding windows and insulation! I was hoping that this type of build was commonplace but cant seem to find many houses with these features despite going through hundreds of floorplans and lots of builders websites already~ Reply Reply Like Share More 04 Jun 2020 206 Bronze Member Re: Banksia House from YourHome Passive Design 4Jan 09, 2021 3:09 pm mowgliandme Thank so much, just joined the group and its awesome Thats my plan regarding windows and insulation! I was hoping that this type of build was commonplace but cant seem to find many houses with these features despite going through hundreds of floorplans and lots of builders websites already~ There are quite a few of these types of builds happening throughout Australia now but obviously still a small minority. You won't find volume builders doing much of it though and their standard floor plans have no consideration at all for passive solar principles. Check this website for previous builds. Hopefully this year we are able to visit houses in person again. https://sustainablehouseday.com/ You may find builds around where you live from years gone by and also learn the companies who built them. Some other great resources: https://renew.org.au/renew-magazine/ https://renew.org.au/sanctuary-magazine/ https://newenergythinking.com/blog/ And yes the MEEH facebook group is excellent as there are some people with vast experience on there giving great advice. Reply Reply Like Share More 06 Jan 2021 4 New Poster Re: Banksia House from YourHome Passive Design 5Jan 09, 2021 4:16 pm I've been trawling through the sustainable house website and renew Getting loads of ideas, blowing out the budget before I've even started as looks like it will have to pretty custom. Will check out newenergythinking too I studied sustainable design and NatHERs in uni 10 years ago (but didn't end up working in that field) so was hoping it would be more commonplace by now! The way we were taught about the 'minimum six star rating' back then made it seem like passive design was already an essential part of all new buildings, yet most of the builders don't look like they've considered it even 10 years on... Reply Reply Like Share More 04 Jun 2020 206 Bronze Member Re: Banksia House from YourHome Passive Design 6Jan 09, 2021 4:33 pm mowgliandme I've been trawling through the sustainable house website and renew Getting loads of ideas, blowing out the budget before I've even started as looks like it will have to pretty custom. Will check out newenergythinking too I studied sustainable design and NatHERs in uni 10 years ago (but didn't end up working in that field) so was hoping it would be more commonplace by now! The way we were taught about the 'minimum six star rating' back then made it seem like passive design was already an essential part of all new buildings, yet most of the builders don't look like they've considered it even 10 years on... Yeah we're pretty far behind hey. I don't think a custom home is necessarily MUCH more expensive than a mid tier standard volume home. I'm hoping to build a 160-170m2 (not including garage) custom home in Adelaide for around $350k (not including any external stuff) using a builder who specialises in sustainable builds. From what I have gathered, a similar sized standard build to minimum specs would be around $250-270k turn-key. I don't think that's a massive difference considering a lot of people easily pay $50k+ on a new car. The house you get will be much better. Reply Reply Like Share More 13 Mar 2021 1 New Poster Re: Banksia House from YourHome Passive Design 7Mar 13, 2021 6:54 am Hi mowgliandme. I too love the Banksia design! We're basing our rebuild on the Banksia design with a few tweaks. We're in southern NSW so used the Canberra specs. Had our draughty remove the garage all together since we have a big shed, so one bedroom is now on the south side. Main bathroom is now on the north side between living and second bedroom. Entry/mudroom now between kitchen and bedroom 3, and laundry between bed 2 and bed 3. Going with hydronic slab heating, 6.6kW solar on the barn roof (more going onto the house roof later), much bigger deck to the north, and We're doing the custom build through a volume builder and will be sitting around $500K all up - keeping in mind we upped the size very slightly and added a few bells and whistles. Build starts in a few weeks, happy to keep you posted as we go! Reply Reply Like Share More 05 May 2021 1 New Poster Re: Banksia House from YourHome Passive Design 8May 05, 2021 8:00 pm Hey Gumnut case, this sounds nearly exactly like what we are planning to do also close to Canberra. Wouldn't love to follow along with your build! Please share updates as you go! Reply Reply Like Share More 06 Jan 2021 4 New Poster Re: Banksia House from YourHome Passive Design 9May 07, 2021 9:12 pm gumnut_case Hi mowgliandme. I too love the Banksia design! We're basing our rebuild on the Banksia design with a few tweaks. We're in southern NSW so used the Canberra specs. Had our draughty remove the garage all together since we have a big shed, so one bedroom is now on the south side. Main bathroom is now on the north side between living and second bedroom. Entry/mudroom now between kitchen and bedroom 3, and laundry between bed 2 and bed 3. Going with hydronic slab heating, 6.6kW solar on the barn roof (more going onto the house roof later), much bigger deck to the north, and We're doing the custom build through a volume builder and will be sitting around $500K all up - keeping in mind we upped the size very slightly and added a few bells and whistles. Build starts in a few weeks, happy to keep you posted as we go! I'm really sorry i missed this message - i would love to keep updated! I think I have send you a follow request on instagram? Your changes sound great - do you have a new floor plan? Reply Reply Like Share More 10 Jul 2021 14 Junior Member Re: Banksia House from YourHome Passive Design 10Jul 10, 2021 7:19 pm stonesthrow mowgliandme I've been trawling through the sustainable house website and renew Getting loads of ideas, blowing out the budget before I've even started as looks like it will have to pretty custom. Will check out newenergythinking too I studied sustainable design and NatHERs in uni 10 years ago (but didn't end up working in that field) so was hoping it would be more commonplace by now! The way we were taught about the 'minimum six star rating' back then made it seem like passive design was already an essential part of all new buildings, yet most of the builders don't look like they've considered it even 10 years on... Yeah we're pretty far behind hey. I don't think a custom home is necessarily MUCH more expensive than a mid tier standard volume home. I'm hoping to build a 160-170m2 (not including garage) custom home in Adelaide for around $350k (not including any external stuff) using a builder who specialises in sustainable builds. From what I have gathered, a similar sized standard build to minimum specs would be around $250-270k turn-key. I don't think that's a massive difference considering a lot of people easily pay $50k+ on a new car. The house you get will be much better. Hi stonesthrow, Just wondering if you were able to find a custom builder yet for around this price and if so who they are. We're in Adelaide too, early in the research process but this is the size and budget we are looking at and sustainability is important to us. Cheers. Reply Reply Like Share More 04 Jun 2020 206 Bronze Member Re: Banksia House from YourHome Passive Design 11Jul 10, 2021 8:04 pm arfshesaid stonesthrow mowgliandme I've been trawling through the sustainable house website and renew Getting loads of ideas, blowing out the budget before I've even started as looks like it will have to pretty custom. Will check out newenergythinking too I studied sustainable design and NatHERs in uni 10 years ago (but didn't end up working in that field) so was hoping it would be more commonplace by now! The way we were taught about the 'minimum six star rating' back then made it seem like passive design was already an essential part of all new buildings, yet most of the builders don't look like they've considered it even 10 years on... Yeah we're pretty far behind hey. I don't think a custom home is necessarily MUCH more expensive than a mid tier standard volume home. I'm hoping to build a 160-170m2 (not including garage) custom home in Adelaide for around $350k (not including any external stuff) using a builder who specialises in sustainable builds. From what I have gathered, a similar sized standard build to minimum specs would be around $250-270k turn-key. I don't think that's a massive difference considering a lot of people easily pay $50k+ on a new car. The house you get will be much better. Hi stonesthrow, Just wondering if you were able to find a custom builder yet for around this price and if so who they are. We're in Adelaide too, early in the research process but this is the size and budget we are looking at and sustainability is important to us. Cheers. Hi there, Apparently prices are up around 10% at the moment due to supply costs. If you're happy to pay an architect I'd recommend goodhouse. I think they're a good price considering the standard of build their builders achieve and how knowledgeable they are in the design stage. Mark is as genuine as they come. I've talked to quite a few builders /architects now and they seem the best and you could probably get a simple house (but with good specs) for around $2000-21000/m2 (+architect fees). Another person to talk to would be Simon from Sustainabuilding. Really knows his stuff. Another option is mirage homes. They have a good standard build (double glazing, high insulation, air tight) and are becoming more knowledgeable imo. No architect fees either. Good option for a simple site and build. Reply Reply Like Share More 10 Jul 2021 14 Junior Member Re: Banksia House from YourHome Passive Design 12Jul 10, 2021 10:23 pm stonesthrow arfshesaid stonesthrow Yeah we're pretty far behind hey. I don't think a custom home is necessarily MUCH more expensive than a mid tier standard volume home. I'm hoping to build a 160-170m2 (not including garage) custom home in Adelaide for around $350k (not including any external stuff) using a builder who specialises in sustainable builds. From what I have gathered, a similar sized standard build to minimum specs would be around $250-270k turn-key. I don't think that's a massive difference considering a lot of people easily pay $50k+ on a new car. The house you get will be much better. Hi stonesthrow, Just wondering if you were able to find a custom builder yet for around this price and if so who they are. We're in Adelaide too, early in the research process but this is the size and budget we are looking at and sustainability is important to us. Cheers. Hi there, Apparently prices are up around 10% at the moment due to supply costs. If you're happy to pay an architect I'd recommend goodhouse. I think they're a good price considering the standard of build their builders achieve and how knowledgeable they are in the design stage. Mark is as genuine as they come. I've talked to quite a few builders /architects now and they seem the best and you could probably get a simple house (but with good specs) for around $2000-21000/m2 (+architect fees). Another person to talk to would be Simon from Sustainabuilding. Really knows his stuff. Another option is mirage homes. They have a good standard build (double glazing, high insulation, air tight) and are becoming more knowledgeable imo. No architect fees either. Good option for a simple site and build. Thank you very much for this specific and helpful reply! Glad to hear that about goodhouse as I already have them on my list to contact. (just checking, googled Mirage Homes and they seem like a custom builder only without a standard design -- did you mean someone else?) Hope all is going well with your plans, cheers. Reply Reply Like Share More 04 Jun 2020 206 Bronze Member Re: Banksia House from YourHome Passive Design 13Jul 10, 2021 11:04 pm arfshesaid stonesthrow arfshesaid Hi stonesthrow, Just wondering if you were able to find a custom builder yet for around this price and if so who they are. We're in Adelaide too, early in the research process but this is the size and budget we are looking at and sustainability is important to us. Cheers. Hi there, Apparently prices are up around 10% at the moment due to supply costs. If you're happy to pay an architect I'd recommend goodhouse. I think they're a good price considering the standard of build their builders achieve and how knowledgeable they are in the design stage. Mark is as genuine as they come. I've talked to quite a few builders /architects now and they seem the best and you could probably get a simple house (but with good specs) for around $2000-21000/m2 (+architect fees). Another person to talk to would be Simon from Sustainabuilding. Really knows his stuff. Another option is mirage homes. They have a good standard build (double glazing, high insulation, air tight) and are becoming more knowledgeable imo. No architect fees either. Good option for a simple site and build. Thank you very much for this specific and helpful reply! Glad to hear that about goodhouse as I already have them on my list to contact. (just checking, googled Mirage Homes and they seem like a custom builder only without a standard design -- did you mean someone else?) Hope all is going well with your plans, cheers. Sorry I meant their standard inclusions (not standard build /design). They fully custom design to suit your site. They have an in house designer Reply Reply Like Share More 10 Jul 2021 14 Junior Member Reply Reply Like Share More Reply Like Share More 10 Jul 2021 14 Junior Member Re: Banksia House from YourHome Passive Design 16Jan 23, 2022 9:39 pm stonesthrow arfshesaid Thank you very much for this specific and helpful reply! Glad to hear that about goodhouse as I already have them on my list to contact. (just checking, googled Mirage Homes and they seem like a custom builder only without a standard design -- did you mean someone else?) Hope all is going well with your plans, cheers. Sorry I meant their standard inclusions (not standard build /design). They fully custom design to suit your site. They have an in house designer How has your research/build gone stonesthrow? I have had good experiences talking with Goodhouse and TS4, and visited the Adelaide Green Homes display house which was instructive in terms of things we do and don't like. Going to visit a TS4 house soon hopefully and will talk further with them. A little concerned about cost increases this year but we have some budget contingency. We considered going with Weeks (I was very impressed with their Oxford display home), but putting together a briefing document helped me realise all the things a volume builder simply could not do for us. We're gonna be in this house for decades (hopefully) so site-specific and personalised design from the ground up is worth the extra money to us. Reply Reply Like Share More 04 Jun 2020 206 Bronze Member Re: Banksia House from YourHome Passive Design 17Jan 23, 2022 10:34 pm arfshesaid stonesthrow arfshesaid Thank you very much for this specific and helpful reply! Glad to hear that about goodhouse as I already have them on my list to contact. (just checking, googled Mirage Homes and they seem like a custom builder only without a standard design -- did you mean someone else?) Hope all is going well with your plans, cheers. Sorry I meant their standard inclusions (not standard build /design). They fully custom design to suit your site. They have an in house designer How has your research/build gone stonesthrow? I have had good experiences talking with Goodhouse and TS4, and visited the Adelaide Green Homes display house which was instructive in terms of things we do and don't like. Going to visit a TS4 house soon hopefully and will talk further with them. A little concerned about cost increases this year but we have some budget contingency. We considered going with Weeks (I was very impressed with their Oxford display home), but putting together a briefing document helped me realise all the things a volume builder simply could not do for us. We're gonna be in this house for decades (hopefully) so site-specific and personalised design from the ground up is worth the extra money to us. Hi there, Yeah I looked into rossdale as they were the only volume builder who were willing to sit down with me after I showed them my brief. I quickly found out that they wouldn't be significant saving anymore when they no longer use standard materials and get the volume discounts. The sales guy was also trying to talk me out of some things. I think if I were building an investment property or a small holiday house I'd give them a go and just make it simple and make the most of their bulk materials (brick etc.). You could probably still get a reasonable outcome so long as you pushed them. Good that you have talked to those 3. I didn't pursue AGH because they had an annoying sales guy that I didn't like. Don't think he works there anymore though. Why are you leaning towards ts4 over goodhouse? So we decided to go through Mirage and are in the concept stage now. We didn't want to spend more time saving to afford architect fees and figured our plan should be simple enough. I would guess that goodhouse and ts4 will prioritise efficiency more and they would have more expertise. I think mirage are getting better but there are some things I've had to push back on a bit from a design point of view. Their building methods and standards are good though from what I've seen and I expect to have a fairly high performing house with good air tightness. I think if you're happy to pay some extra up front (and maybe a little extra for the build), I'd go with goodhouse or ts4 as you could have more trust in them during the design phase. FYI I know timber has gone up around 100% so far for us clients. Don't think much else has filtered through (builders might be taking the hit?) so it's not outrageous. Reply Reply Like Share More 10 Jul 2021 14 Junior Member Re: Banksia House from YourHome Passive Design 18Jan 24, 2022 10:31 am stonesthrow Hi there, Yeah I looked into rossdale as they were the only volume builder who were willing to sit down with me after I showed them my brief. I quickly found out that they wouldn't be significant saving anymore when they no longer use standard materials and get the volume discounts. The sales guy was also trying to talk me out of some things. I think if I were building an investment property or a small holiday house I'd give them a go and just make it simple and make the most of their bulk materials (brick etc.). You could probably still get a reasonable outcome so long as you pushed them. Good that you have talked to those 3. I didn't pursue AGH because they had an annoying sales guy that I didn't like. Don't think he works there anymore though. Why are you leaning towards ts4 over goodhouse? So we decided to go through Mirage and are in the concept stage now. We didn't want to spend more time saving to afford architect fees and figured our plan should be simple enough. I would guess that goodhouse and ts4 will prioritise efficiency more and they would have more expertise. I think mirage are getting better but there are some things I've had to push back on a bit from a design point of view. Their building methods and standards are good though from what I've seen and I expect to have a fairly high performing house with good air tightness. I think if you're happy to pay some extra up front (and maybe a little extra for the build), I'd go with goodhouse or ts4 as you could have more trust in them during the design phase. FYI I know timber has gone up around 100% so far for us clients. Don't think much else has filtered through (builders might be taking the hit?) so it's not outrageous. Excited to hear you've moved to the concept stage with Mirage! Would love to see your plans on this or a new thread if/when you have them. I know goodhouse is big on waffle pod slabs, did you go with a conventional raft? There were elements of the AGH design that we really liked and it was nice to get a good look at a burnished concrete floor, because I have my reservations about it as a floor surface. On the whole I didn't love the display home and didn't engage much with sales. We didn't reach out to Mirage as I don't have the time/energy capacity to have your confidence evaluating design from an environmental point of view, so I definitely need to be able to trust the architect when it comes to energy and sustainability solutions. I was very impressed with the goodhouse info session and how well-structured and clear their pricing and timeline documentation is. No doubt they could deliver, but there is a little rigidity and remoteness to their designs and process and they seem more suited to spectacular big budget stuff. What I've seen of TS4 designs are less remote while retaining an architectural flexibility, and fitting into our unspectacular suburban context is important to us. Paul at TS4 is very approachable and knowledgeable, if a little chaotic! Feel like he and his team would be good partners for our kind of project. Glad to hear that about building costs. It's a comfort that these firms have a lot of trust in their builders, who, being specialised, can weather the storm a little more easily. Reply Reply Like Share More 04 Jun 2020 206 Bronze Member Re: Banksia House from YourHome Passive Design 19Jan 24, 2022 9:42 pm arfshesaid stonesthrow Hi there, Yeah I looked into rossdale as they were the only volume builder who were willing to sit down with me after I showed them my brief. I quickly found out that they wouldn't be significant saving anymore when they no longer use standard materials and get the volume discounts. The sales guy was also trying to talk me out of some things. I think if I were building an investment property or a small holiday house I'd give them a go and just make it simple and make the most of their bulk materials (brick etc.). You could probably still get a reasonable outcome so long as you pushed them. Good that you have talked to those 3. I didn't pursue AGH because they had an annoying sales guy that I didn't like. Don't think he works there anymore though. Why are you leaning towards ts4 over goodhouse? So we decided to go through Mirage and are in the concept stage now. We didn't want to spend more time saving to afford architect fees and figured our plan should be simple enough. I would guess that goodhouse and ts4 will prioritise efficiency more and they would have more expertise. I think mirage are getting better but there are some things I've had to push back on a bit from a design point of view. Their building methods and standards are good though from what I've seen and I expect to have a fairly high performing house with good air tightness. I think if you're happy to pay some extra up front (and maybe a little extra for the build), I'd go with goodhouse or ts4 as you could have more trust in them during the design phase. FYI I know timber has gone up around 100% so far for us clients. Don't think much else has filtered through (builders might be taking the hit?) so it's not outrageous. Excited to hear you've moved to the concept stage with Mirage! Would love to see your plans on this or a new thread if/when you have them. I know goodhouse is big on waffle pod slabs, did you go with a conventional raft? There were elements of the AGH design that we really liked and it was nice to get a good look at a burnished concrete floor, because I have my reservations about it as a floor surface. On the whole I didn't love the display home and didn't engage much with sales. We didn't reach out to Mirage as I don't have the time/energy capacity to have your confidence evaluating design from an environmental point of view, so I definitely need to be able to trust the architect when it comes to energy and sustainability solutions. I was very impressed with the goodhouse info session and how well-structured and clear their pricing and timeline documentation is. No doubt they could deliver, but there is a little rigidity and remoteness to their designs and process and they seem more suited to spectacular big budget stuff. What I've seen of TS4 designs are less remote while retaining an architectural flexibility, and fitting into our unspectacular suburban context is important to us. Paul at TS4 is very approachable and knowledgeable, if a little chaotic! Feel like he and his team would be good partners for our kind of project. Glad to hear that about building costs. It's a comfort that these firms have a lot of trust in their builders, who, being specialised, can weather the storm a little more easily. I probably won't ever post anything here that's public, but happy to share privately or keep you posted on how I go. They normally do waffle, but will depend on the soil. Not sure yet. I don't think you'll go wrong with either. I'd be happy to use both! Let me know how you get on. I'd love to compare processes. It's not a very transparent industry! Reply Reply Like Share More 10 Jul 2021 14 Junior Member Re: Banksia House from YourHome Passive Design 20Jan 25, 2022 9:33 am I'd love to see and share! I'll DM you to kick it off. Reply Sign in or Join to reply to this Topic 1 more post
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