Browse Forums Windows & Doors Re: Internal floor tiles flush with stacker door track 2Jan 05, 2022 12:10 am Accessible Carpentry & Cabinets accessiblecarpentry@gmail.com accessiblecarpentry.com.au https://www.facebook.com/pages/Accessible-Carpentry-Cabinets/583314911709039 Re: Internal floor tiles flush with stacker door track 5Jan 05, 2022 8:44 am Designer,Engineer (Civil,Const & Envir),Builder,Concrete & Masonry Contract.Struct Repairs Re: Internal floor tiles flush with stacker door track 8Jan 05, 2022 9:34 am Designer,Engineer (Civil,Const & Envir),Builder,Concrete & Masonry Contract.Struct Repairs Re: Internal floor tiles flush with stacker door track 13Jan 05, 2022 11:25 am Sammy1981 @arcadelt what is the standard or acceptable thickness for a sand and cement screed? Sammy1981, I am not a tiler or builder, but looking at a few data sheets of screed material from a few manufacturers after a quick internet search suggests maximum without adding reinforcing would be 30 to 40mm. Sammy1981 Also, i am planning to have a step down for alfresco and only the flush finish from inside. Not really sure that makes a difference for the purposes of this discussion. Sammy1981 Regarding the flush finish for the wet areas - My builder did not create a step down while pouring slab for the wet areas and advised that the screed and tiles in the wet and non-wet areas will level the entire floor, do you think that's achievable? Our wet areas are flush with adjacent floors (carpet and timber) and the underlying slab in those locations was stepped down so that the tiler could achieve an appropriate fall with screed to the drains. I'm not sure how you could do it any other way, except to have a step up to the edges of the wet area, which then falls to achieve drainage. The main reason I was very fussy about leveling the floor across our entire home was to account for the use of cleaning robots. Re: Internal floor tiles flush with stacker door track 14Jan 05, 2022 11:36 am arcadelt Sammy1981 @arcadelt what is the standard or acceptable thickness for a sand and cement screed? Sammy1981, I am not a tiler or builder, but looking at a few data sheets of screed material from a few manufacturers after a quick internet search suggests maximum without adding reinforcing would be 30 to 40mm. Sammy1981 Also, i am planning to have a step down for alfresco and only the flush finish from inside. Not really sure that makes a difference for the purposes of this discussion. Sammy1981 Regarding the flush finish for the wet areas - My builder did not create a step down while pouring slab for the wet areas and advised that the screed and tiles in the wet and non-wet areas will level the entire floor, do you think that's achievable? Our wet areas are flush with adjacent floors (carpet and timber) and the underlying slab in those locations was stepped down so that the tiler could achieve an appropriate fall with screed to the drains. I'm not sure how you could do it any other way, except to have a step up to the edges of the wet area, which then falls to achieve drainage. The main reason I was very fussy about leveling the floor across our entire home was to account for the use of cleaning robots. What the builder advised is that by screeding the adjacent floors before tiling would level the adjacent floors with the wet areas. Basically the builder has advised to screed the entire ground floor before tiling. And the same goes for Alfresco, imagine if the screed is 35mm and tile another 10mm, the floor thickness is already 45mm which matches the height of sliding door trim/tracks. In this case i wouldn't need a rebate anyways. What do you think? Re: Internal floor tiles flush with stacker door track 15Jan 05, 2022 12:27 pm chippy You can, but what sort of height are you looking at. Some sliding door sills are 30mm or more. You have to think that the tile height then flows through your whole house. Basically you will end up with a step down onto carpeted areas. You will also be screeding around all your cabinetry unless it is being installed after tiling. You really need to have had a rebate done so you are close to the desired height. It's those small details in planning that make all the difference. chippy Thanks for your reply. My sliding door sill is 45mm. On my ground floor, i will have tiles (and hence screed) every where except the media room which will have carpet (i have to find a way how to level media room floor with rest of the house). The screeding will also help me to achieve the flush finish with the wet areas. Currently there is no step down for the wet areas and hence screeding and tiling wet and not wet areas at the same time will allow me to have both wet and non wet areas at the same level. I am just wondering, if you are doing screeding, then anyways you can achieve that height of 45mm with screed plus the tiles and in that case why one need to do the rebate? I am just assuming this but not sure what will be the finished floor height from the slab with screed plus the tiles. Structurally or in terms of waterproofing is there any benefit of doing a rebate to achieve the flush finish? Any feedback or advise please? Re: Internal floor tiles flush with stacker door track 16Jan 05, 2022 5:04 pm Sammy1981 You can definitely screed your whole slab. Tilers normally only screed a floor slab (asides from wet areas) if you are using rectified porcelain otherwise gluing direct to the slab is fine. A properly planned build would have step downs in the wet areas and a rebate for the sliding door. That way all of this extra work that you are now contemplating could have been avoided. It almost sounds like the screed option is the builders way of passing on some poor planning to you. Obviously it's past the point where you can change that now, so you are looking for a solution. Screeding can be done but you have to look at all areas it will affect. How will raising the floor height effect every area in the house. Have you got 45mm at your front door, are you prepared to only have 2000mm under all your door frames, will cutting 45mm off the actual doors cause an issue structurally, all cabinetry will have to be installed after the screed has been done, are you happy to batten out your theatre room and install a false floor? Plus it possible adds another area of failure if there is any structural or workmanship issues down the track. As you can see there are so many things to consider, not to mention the extra cost to you that all of this will bring. I guess short answer is yes, it can be done. But just how important is having a completely flat access to your alfresco considering you will have a step there anyway. It's going to cost a lot of time and money to achieve, if you are prepared to spend that can work around some of the issues I mentioned then go for it. Accessible Carpentry & Cabinets accessiblecarpentry@gmail.com accessiblecarpentry.com.au https://www.facebook.com/pages/Accessible-Carpentry-Cabinets/583314911709039 Okay, then the choice is really about the build quality of the door itself which means the brand name. Sorry I can't recommend one or the other so best to rely on comments… 5 3553 Hi there, looking to have a gym in a new build. Planning to install some sort of rubber mat flooring (on concrete) i.e. Asking the builder to not do floorboards in the gym… 0 2717 Sure looks like the type of track that I fitted to my house. My supplier said that the underside has a tray which drains to the front. 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