Browse Forums Building A New House Re: Help me understand building frame types 4Oct 08, 2021 12:13 pm Hey ren_ho Do you have a sketch and own copyright? If your answer is yes then you might consider 3D Engineering Bim, Data/proofs and work thru the alternate construction, materials, methods & costings with the design engineer Builder construction quote details ...Generally it only takes a couple of clicks using apps and internet data. Majority of clients prefer to get a trusted profession to do it for them...find someone local Cheers Chris Designer,Engineer (Civil,Const & Envir),Builder,Concrete & Masonry Contract.Struct Repairs Re: Help me understand building frame types 5Oct 08, 2021 5:31 pm ren_ho Thanks! What about the pros/cons of ICF/concrete panels? Do you know of any builders using these other materials? ren_ho Alex is the expert on here with ICF, so he may disagree with me. I have posted previously about trying to build for a client who wanted ICF and when we got the price it was quickly dismissed. ICF essentially has 2 functions: 1. The blocks act as formwork for the concrete 2. The foam acts as insulation The major downside that I was told by the supplier is that the concrete takes around a year or so to dry due to the foam so you will need to run dehumidifiers. Alex may have had a difference experience. A really good alternative are corefilled concrete blocks which you can then insulate on the inside or dincel which also serves as formwork, then a bondek floor. If you really want concrete walls, depending on site access for cranage, precast can be a good option. You wont get any project home builders using any of these. At the end of the day, it all comes down to your budget and the design of your home. Good luck and have a great weekend PS Alex, if I have my ICF facts wrong I apologise Cheers Simeon Architectural Homes & Duplexes - specialising in custom designing homes to your budget Get a Free Onsite Consultation Today or send a PM for information, questions or advice. Re: Help me understand building frame types 7Oct 09, 2021 1:41 pm There are different types of ICFs, I am not recommending to use EPS type ICFs as polysterene is not the best thing to put concrete into and to live in. I would rather recommend wood cement based ICF like Durisol, which provides natural moisture control and doesn't require dehumidifiers. I am not sure about current prices, but previously ICF wall construction was approximately 30% more expensive then brick veneer construction all in mainly due to rendering requirements, but with increased cost of timber framing it might be already on par. By the way, I am currently working on the R&D and Codemark certification of wood cement based walls + suspended slab technology (covering up to 12 meters without extra structural beams), which will be a good alternative to all types of modern low story residential construction. For example, it will be allowing to lock up 50 sq double story house in less than 4 weeks, where your walls and suspended slabs are prefabricated at the factory and then installed onsite within a day and most time will be spent on the earthworks and roofing. It will also require virtually zero plastering (all walls will be pre-rendered and will only require skimming before painting over) and will be significantly reducing electrical and plumbing fit out time and costs (all the channels for wires and pipes will be also prepared at the factory). Cost wise, I am targeting it to be cheaper than rendered brick veneer with Hebel floors, but will be offering much better acoustic, thermal and structural performance. Stay tuned. Re: Help me understand building frame types 8Oct 09, 2021 2:07 pm alexp79 There are different types of ICFs, I am not recommending to use EPS type ICFs as polysterene is not the best thing to put concrete into and to live in. I would rather recommend wood cement based ICF like Durisol, which provides natural moisture control and doesn't require dehumidifiers. I am not sure about current prices, but previously ICF wall construction was approximately 30% more expensive then brick veneer construction all in mainly due to rendering requirements, but with increased cost of timber framing it might be already on par. By the way, I am currently working on the R&D and Codemark certification of wood cement based walls + suspended slab technology (covering up to 12 meters without extra structural beams), which will be a good alternative to all types of modern low story residential construction. For example, it will be allowing to lock up 50 sq double story house in less than 4 weeks, where your walls and suspended slabs are prefabricated at the factory and then installed onsite within a day and most time will be spent on the earthworks and roofing. It will also require virtually zero plastering (all walls will be pre-rendered and will only require skimming before painting over) and will be significantly reducing electrical and plumbing fit out time and costs (all the channels for wires and pipes will be also prepared at the factory). Cost wise, I am targeting it to be cheaper than rendered brick veneer with Hebel floors, but will be offering much better acoustic, thermal and structural performance. Stay tuned. Sounds really interesting. That drawing’s in the old units. 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