Browse Forums General Discussion Re: How to use Metricon LAN cabling 3Sep 11, 2021 11:51 pm Each LAN point has to run back to a central point as an individual cable. So if there are 4 points around the house they will run back to one place that you then connect to your switch or modem. I suspect that there is a patch panel or location somewhere that the LAN point in the garage runs to that also has all the individual LAN points. Basically you should have the NBN point attached to a modem that the uses a switch or it's inbuilt ethernet points that connect into the various LAN points that are distributed across the house. Accessible Carpentry & Cabinets accessiblecarpentry@gmail.com accessiblecarpentry.com.au https://www.facebook.com/pages/Accessible-Carpentry-Cabinets/583314911709039 Re: How to use Metricon LAN cabling 4Sep 12, 2021 12:31 am chippy Each LAN point has to run back to a central point as an individual cable. So if there are 4 points around the house they will run back to one place that you then connect to your switch or modem. I suspect that there is a patch panel or location somewhere that the LAN point in the garage runs to that also has all the individual LAN points. Basically you should have the NBN point attached to a modem that the uses a switch or it's inbuilt ethernet points that connect into the various LAN points that are distributed across the house. This is PRECISELY what I thought, as I said, the old place had a bunch of leads hanging out of the wall in a cupboard, which I could selectively plug into my router. This place has nothing, I looked everywhere before we moved in, and cannot find anything. This is why I was hoping for some specific advice from someone building or living in a Metricon build. Where a patch panel would be installed by default. Re: How to use Metricon LAN cabling 6Sep 12, 2021 12:35 am Callifo Without a cabler tester to ensure its been wired right, its hard to guess but do you get a link light on the device you plug in (garage end connected to the router, the other to the device)? I do have a tester, but I hadn't tried it as yet. There are about four points around the house, including the one in the garage. I would not expect adding the sender to the garage and the tester somewhere else would do anything. I am wondering if there is some sort of switch in a ceiling space or something, but if that was the case, plugging my router to the wall in the garage would have worked, as the DHCP would have kicked in and granted addresses to everything plugged in elsewhere in the house. Re: How to use Metricon LAN cabling 7Sep 12, 2021 12:40 am Callifo Are you sure they aren't star wired telephone ports with an rj45 connector? I don't know anything for sure - as Metricon refuse to speak to me. What I can tell you is that the port in the garage has two sockets side by side, one labelled with a phone receiver icon, the other with a computer with the number 6 next to it - which implies cat6 cable to me. The presence of a phone icon on one plug (which is not rj45) in addition to a cat6 (?) label on an RJ45 connector makes me think it is definitely not a phone jack with an rj45 connector. Also, I would not think a 2020 build would have a landline focus, when most people don't have one except for internet - but that is my personal assumption. The "LAN" points elsewhere in the house also bear the Computer/6 icon, for example, behind the TV, there is an RF plug for the antenna and a RJ45 - no phone connector is present there. Re: How to use Metricon LAN cabling 8Sep 12, 2021 12:06 pm There's a security cabinet in the cupboard of the second floor, but there's no LAN equipment inside. We were advised when we moved in that the house contained a security system, but that we would need to organise monitoring for ourselves. There is also a CAT6 plug next to the that cabinet. I've popped open the ceiling on the second floor, and can see a few LAN cables criss crossing the ceiling, two close to the central dividing wall (it's a dual-oc as previously stated) which I *think* run down to the ground floor and come out 1 behind the TV (CAT6) and one a few metres closer to the front door (Phone). I can see another LAN cable which looks like it goes to the TV area on the second floor. I can see the cables, but I cannot see any sort of a switch. There is no cabinet in the garage except the one that the NBNCo installed back in July. It contains the "NBN Connection device" - aka modem, but no switching or routing connection. To answer Callifo's earlier question, about a link light, no, I plug the LAN socket in to my router, that socket remains dark, whilst the others which are plugged in, are lit. I also tried the LAN point in the upstairs cupboard, just to see if maybe the other one was faulty? No - the laptop I plugged in just says there is no connection. I have seen other threads referring to the Metricon "Home Networking Lite" package. The exact contents vary between posts (possibly they've changed over time): *Home Network Lite system (includes home network enclosure, 1 gigabit Ethernet switch, 1 phone point, 1 WAN point, 2 television points, 3 data points) I cannot find an enclosure anywhere, nor a gigabit ethernet switch. I don't want to crawl around in the ceiling space if I don't have to, paranoid of doing a Clarke Griswold and coming down through the ceiling. Especially as I'll wager I am quite a bit heavier than he was in the film! I am wondering if this was a package that just includes the cabling and no gigabit router - but if that is the case - where do all the cables go? What would be the point of installing cables and terminating them in data points in 4 locations through the house, but having them be ready to be connected to something later? Any Metricon owners / builders out there - where would this be installed by default - if not in the garage? What data package did you buy and what did it include? Anyone know of any documentation on line for how to use their systems ? I've seen a few forum posts on here where people dealing with "M" feel that their sales agents really don't understand how the data cabling works. Re: Metricon LAN cabling - still need help 9Sep 12, 2021 3:15 pm Try sending some of these posters a message. Sounds like they have Metricon data packages so may know better. viewtopic.php?f=31&t=102211 Accessible Carpentry & Cabinets accessiblecarpentry@gmail.com accessiblecarpentry.com.au https://www.facebook.com/pages/Accessible-Carpentry-Cabinets/583314911709039 Re: How to use Metricon LAN cabling 10Sep 12, 2021 3:17 pm chippy Each LAN point has to run back to a central point as an individual cable. So if there are 4 points around the house they will run back to one place that you then connect to your switch or modem. I suspect that there is a patch panel or location somewhere that the LAN point in the garage runs to that also has all the individual LAN points. Basically you should have the NBN point attached to a modem that the uses a switch or it's inbuilt ethernet points that connect into the various LAN points that are distributed across the house. Hi Chippy - This is what I have been trying to explain to the owner / agent. You need routing hardware. Having read about at least one package from Metricon that includes a gigabit router, I thought that was how it would work. Hide that away somewhere and then you CAN "just plug it in". In that case the patch panel, or even just a bunch of LAN cables zip tied together somewhere being fed into a switch. I've been in the ceiling now. Found the TV antenna splitter, right beside the ceiling access point, but I cannot see anything LAN related. If the owner is not going to live there and none of the sales people really understand the data cabling options, then they might be saying something like "it's an extra $1500 to get extra hardware", "no, I'll just get the basics...". If there is no router/switch and no visible patch panel, it really seems like they've done half a job to me. It would be like installing all the light switches and wiring throughout and then not connecting to the mains at the front of the house, of course nothing would work! Re: Metricon LAN cabling - still need help 11Sep 12, 2021 3:17 pm I can't see the connections being in the ceiling. That would just be totally impractical. Accessible Carpentry & Cabinets accessiblecarpentry@gmail.com accessiblecarpentry.com.au https://www.facebook.com/pages/Accessible-Carpentry-Cabinets/583314911709039 Re: Metricon LAN cabling - still need help 12Sep 12, 2021 3:22 pm Chuckles99 chippy Each LAN point has to run back to a central point as an individual cable. So if there are 4 points around the house they will run back to one place that you then connect to your switch or modem. I suspect that there is a patch panel or location somewhere that the LAN point in the garage runs to that also has all the individual LAN points. Basically you should have the NBN point attached to a modem that the uses a switch or it's inbuilt ethernet points that connect into the various LAN points that are distributed across the house. Hi Chippy - This is what I have been trying to explain to the owner / agent. You need routing hardware. Having read about at least one package from Metricon that includes a gigabit router, I thought that was how it would work. Hide that away somewhere and then you CAN "just plug it in". In that case the patch panel, or even just a bunch of LAN cables zip tied together somewhere being fed into a switch. I've been in the ceiling now. Found the TV antenna splitter, right beside the ceiling access point, but I cannot see anything LAN related. If the owner is not going to live there and none of the sales people really understand the data cabling options, then they might be saying something like "it's an extra $1500 to get extra hardware", "no, I'll just get the basics...". If there is no router/switch and no visible patch panel, it really seems like they've done half a job to me. It would be like installing all the light switches and wiring throughout and then not connecting to the mains at the front of the house, of course nothing would work! You are right. You can't just split the one data point in the garage into several seperate data points around the house without having a switch to handle it. That's why you'd assume that there is a central panel somewhere that the modem or switch can be installed. Typically it's in a cabinet (WIR, pantry, linen etc) or in the garage. Accessible Carpentry & Cabinets accessiblecarpentry@gmail.com accessiblecarpentry.com.au https://www.facebook.com/pages/Accessible-Carpentry-Cabinets/583314911709039 Re: Metricon LAN cabling - still need help 13Sep 12, 2021 3:29 pm chippy I can't see the connections being in the ceiling. That would just be totally impractical. 100% agreed. There are 4 LAN points inside the house. Garage Downstairs Lounge Upstairs Lounge Upstairs Cupboard next to security panel There is no patch panel and no sort of cabinet aside from the security one and the one that NBNCo installed in the garage 7 months after the build was completed. Plugging in a device to any one of those LAN points does nothing at all. I can see some LAN cables in the ceiling space of the second floor, so I feel that at the very least I have confirmed they are not just face plates installed in the wall with nothing behind them. I cannot find where the other ends of those cables are, and am now totally pained in to a corner. Responsibilities have been split so many times that it doesn't work, and no one can / will tell me why, and as the tenant, that's now just my problem. Sales don't really understand the product Metricon offer ZERO documentation on it They outsource the work to sub contractors Once the house is built - all issues go through service/warranty Covid means no site visits I've been asking them to help me since March. It's a bit rough! Re: Metricon LAN cabling - SOLVED 14Sep 12, 2021 4:31 pm Patch panel "hiding in plain sight". Or I just wasn't switched on enough to see it. As previously mentioned, there are four data points in my house, you can see one below, it has a picture of a computer with the number 6 next to it (CAT6 presumably). Looked in every cupboard and every room, even in the ceiling space. No where!!! Metricon Data PointRF antenna / Cat6 Data point Circa 2020Like ⋅ Add a comment ⋅ Pin to Ideaboard ⋅ Until the wife pointed out that one of the network points actually had a bunch of sockets on it. I had written them off because the first time I saw them, I figured it was just for a bunch of devices. No - It's the patch panel. Metricon Patch Panel4x Cat6 (circa 2020) where all of the other data sockets are wired to, including one less than a metre away... Plug these into your router / switch and the plugs at the other end will work.Like ⋅ Add a comment ⋅ Pin to Ideaboard ⋅ Tested it out and I've got full speed internet in the upstairs of my house for the first time since the NBN was installed!!! Thanks for all the tips and suggestions guys, if it weren't for you, I wouldn't have solved it. DIY, Home Maintenance & Repair Brilliant - thanks so much for that. I didn't want to start pulling too hard on it if there was some other way it was attached, but yep, it was just the paint sticking it… 2 3169 Hi, First of all, thank you to this community for sharing your thoughts and opinions. We are in early days of our pre-contract stage for Metricon Doulton and we are… 0 10741 Hello All 🙂 We are planning to start our journey of construction our first home. 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